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Daryl Morey - this is your mess - get to work fixing it!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Dec 11, 2015.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    What budget? In contrast to player salaries, coach salaries are not capped. Les has to make a simple economic decision on what is more damaging: Spending more money on a coach that might turn things around (like Thibodeau) by finally holding Harden accountable for his antics or letting things slide further by putting someone in the position we KNOW will not be able to hold Harden accountable (as he was part of the crew that let things slide to this point).

    Also, why are you stating it as fact that "hiring a new coach means giving up the season"? I would assert the opposite: Not hiring a new coach means giving up, because you know what you will get: More of the same. And we already know that it is not working. At least with a new coach, you try to right the ship.

    They won't - not with this coach. With a new coach that has the full backing of the owner and the GM to hold Harden accountable - maybe.
     
  2. Kwame

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    It's funny to see those who blindly worshiped Maury now turning on him. Some of us have been consistent in warning you from the beginning that he would ultimately be a failure. What's even funnier is that some of you have to preface your criticism by saying "I'm a huge fan of Maury, but..." At least the "In Maury We Trust" crowd has for the most part gone silent kind of like Maury himself when times get tough. This is what happens when you're an arrogant attention w****. Reality has a cold, harsh way of humbling you. Although there are a few die hard homers left. My advice to them is to stop making excuses for your boy and accept the fact that he's responsible for this mess.
     
  3. daywalker02

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    Sorry there but fans here always think Morely is God like but he is not.

    He has proven he can be very good to nearly great at one point but he is only as good as his superstar players.

    Let's say he did not get Yao and Mac and those two were acquired or drafted before his time but all the moves he made were just very good but not great.

    Morey need great players to succeed or a great team consisting of nearly great team mates and team players.

    He is not there and yeah you either win the title or it bites him in the arse!

    He is just a leader off the court assembling players so he needs another great guy on the coaching bench as well.
     
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    To clear it up

    IMO greatness- legendary players

    I doubt Harden is a legendary player, he is one of the best of his generation I am sure but yeah that is that.
     
  5. AroundTheWorld

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    Try this
     
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    He gave up two donkeys and a cup of coffee for harden and Howard. Maybe they aren't your pick for BEST stars of the nba but if you wouldn't have made those moves you're being silly.
     
  7. Raven

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    This has nothing to do with Smith. This has little to do with Morey. This has only a very little to do with Dwight. This is 99% on Harden. His play is dragging down the entire team and probably demoralizing them.
     
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    I do not think going to the playoffs regularly with winning records is a total mess.

    The thing is we are just good enough for that and a possible run but our title chances were always behind Spurs, now Warriors.

    Everything has to click, and it has not clicked in about 20 years.
     
  9. Mr. Clutch

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    Agreed.

    And, to add, he was a legit MVP candidate last year and deserved having a team built around him.

    But if the guy around whom the team is built has a drop in production, of course the team will lose more.

    Imagine if Hakeem suddenly started playing a lot worse in the mid 90s. Of course even those championship teams would have struggled.
     
  10. daywalker02

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    The thing with a Big 3 or Big 2 is that if one is injured or not playing well they still find a way to win in most games till that guy is back.

    This team has one Harden and couple of good players but outside of Harden's Offense and 20-30 minutes of Dwight's D nothing is really special about this team.

    Other players have to step it up and play consistently well or beyond their capabilities. That is too much to ask.
     
  11. OlajuwonFan81

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    Do you realize that over the past 4 seasons Morey has built a championship caliber team with an MVP caliber superstar player that made the western conference finals last season. Give it a rest already. We all know the season so far isn't going as we all thought but to blame the GM is idiotic. He is arguably the best GM in basketball and has given us hope for another ring in houston. If you want to point the fingers at Harden's lack of effort or Howard's decline due to injuries fine.....but Morey is the least of my concerns.
     
  12. AroundTheWorld

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    I think it's more likely that Les decided to promote Bickerstaff to save money. If it was solely Morey's decision, we might already have a stronger coach.

    I also still think that Morey is the best GM in the league.
     
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    But isn't this true of most teams? If LeBron started struggling, or Chris Paul, those teams would be quite a bit worse
     
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    You're being harsh on our roster. Ty Lawson, Marcus Thornton, Dwight Howard, Ariza, Jones & Brewer are all Top 5-10 in their respective positions. Harden's play alone is what's dragging this team down. Replace him with someone like Paul or Wall and this team is easily better than the Warriors.
     
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    Wait.... wut. Thornton a top 10 SG? Brewer a top 10 SF? Jones a top 10 PF? When did those things happen?
     
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    I meant we need at least one or two players that can take the load off one player.

    Morey thought it might be Lawson, who is a nice complimentary player but is not someone who can carry a deep playoff team. Let's be honest.

    If you think I am harsh, I would wholeheartedly agree. Now give me those players.
     
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    Harden was a deserving MVP candidate last season, but don't deny he showed similar DGAF tendencies in '14... Youtube video.

    Not giving up on him (although close).. Rockets need a real coach ASAP and who's reassured this season anything except an all-world 180 won't get him fired. If player(s) don't conform, player movement.
     
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    Rockets will hire another recruiter. Harden's erratic play will only deepen their resolve to have multiple stars.
     
  19. sugrlndkid

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    But it is the truth. Detroit...just wasnt getting a Josh Smith that could make a shot from anywhere on the court. Houston got a more efficient Josh because he got away from a bad situation. But so far this year, he has struggled to make much of an impact for the Clippers.
    2014/15- Detriot (28 games played FG% - .391, 3PT% - .243)
    2014/15 - Houston (55 games played FG% - .438, 3PT% - .330)

    2015/16 - LAC (23 games played FG% - .400, 3PT% - .311)


    I too am victim to this...when things are going well, we tend to be dismissive of real underlying issues. As the Rockets started abysmally, so too did the GARM.

    Josh Smith was the missing link that would make us defensively DOMINANT?? what??? The Rockets defense was like a sieve late last season...and the Rockets consistently gave up massive amount of points in the postseason to the Mavericks, Clippers and Warriors. I dont know what you were watching thinking that the Rockets were dominant with Josh Smith defensively.

    I never said that Josh Smith would NOT have helped this team...Teams need bigs to win in this league. And the Rockets were light in that department due to injuries and being forced to rely on a rookie and a young Capela...However, their issue this year is that NO one is making shots and they have failed to integrate an above average PG into this system. Josh Smith was NOT gonna address that issue at all.
     
  20. oakdogg

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    Josh is a great defensive player. Even if you don't believe that, you can't deny that his bargain price makes signing him a no-brainer. When you add in the other PF options, I don't know WTF Morey was thinking.
     

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