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Daryl Morey regrets Jeremy Lin cut

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Fostate, Feb 9, 2012.

  1. Carl Herrera

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    One can trust Morey on the basis that he would make educated decisions based on diligent efforts without trusting him to do no wrong.

    For example, when the Rockets signed Ariza, we could trust that Morey did his homework before spending the money, but still recognize that there is no guarantee that the move will turn put positively.

    Thinking Ray Allen is a great shooter and trusting him to take a shot doesn't mean we think Ray will never miss.
     
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  2. MadMax

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    Carl, I just shared my experiences here. Congrats that you haven't experienced it.
     
  3. Carl Herrera

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    Examples? There may be some random idiots out there who say this, but what happens more often are people like Tex who attack everyone who think Morey did a good job as thinking Morey is God.
     
  4. TEXNIFICENT

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    Your fanship is appreciated. BTW, Its time our team had a firesale and got serious about rebuilding. You don't believe it look at our attendance numbers. People are becoming apethetic. Is that convincing enough for you?
     
  5. TEXNIFICENT

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    I don't attack anyone. As a matter of fact I've said many times Morey can really work a draft. But I dont agree with the direction the team is taking on rebuilding or the route they're taking with Morris. You say that, and idiots will post you hate the guy. Most of the time I'm really amused about how hard some posters defend the guy. Its amazing.
     
  6. RV6

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    Doesn't matter what is convincing to us. Les wants to win AND make money. Unfortunately for some of us, there's a lot more fair weather fans than loyal fans, so they decide attendance. Les needs to only attract them to get the Toyota Center rocking again and he can pull that off by trading for Gasol and/or getting into the playoffs.

    You have to measure his success by what he's trying to do, not by what direction is right or wrong. I know it may not make sense to think that way, but that's what a true evaluation of his job as a GM would be. It's like calling Rodman a bad player because he skipped around and was more interested in getting into the head of opposing players than scoring more. If his goal was the former, then he was successful, regardless of whether we thought it was right or wrong to do it.

    so this is what would happen in a discussion

    Person A: "Rodman did a really good job out there"
    Person B: "No he didnt he couldn't even score, 1 for 4, 2 points"
    Person A: "but he wasnt trying to"
    Person B: "OMG, you think he's GOD, you defend him even when he sucked!!"
    Person A: :-/
     
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  7. flamingdts

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    That's Les fault, not Morey.

    Les gave explicit instructions that he wants to win whiles rebuilding. Those are the rules Morey is going by.

    It would be nice if you actually knew what goes on in the Rockets instead of going Jersey Shore over things that you have absolutely no clue about.

    Nobody thinks Morey is God, everyone knows Morey made mistake. Seriously, it's embarrassing.
     
  8. TEXNIFICENT

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    Explicit instructions? (Were you there?):confused:

    So don't blame Morey, blame Les.....GOT YA!
     
  9. Ricksmith

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    Kept seeing this thread on the first page of the GARM, decided to check it out. My goodness, over 30 pages? Let's take a look at who's been keeping this thread alive.

    Who Posted?
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    TEXNIFICENT 35
    durvasa 32
    DaDakota 32
    Carl Herrera 23
    choujie 22

    Tracy McGrady:Tinman
    Daryl Morey:TEXNIFICENT
     
  10. flamingdts

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    You really are clueless. Why do I need to be there to know what Lex Alexander said?

    Daryl Morey was interviewed once and he explicitly said Les Alexander's directive is to get the team to championship level without being bad. Do you think Morey will make that up?

    You actually make Morey haters look bad, just saying. If you want to assist the hate train you're better off not saying anything at all.
     
  11. TEXNIFICENT

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    Yawn...
     
  12. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    You tired of the whipping?
     
  13. TEXNIFICENT

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    LMAO... Yeah man! I guess. I don't always drink my Rocket red kool-aid, so I gotta take my whippin. I'll just root for our superstar GM to get this thing turned around. And I apologize for anyone I might have offended in the process. Hell if he's just unlucky I guess I'll just root for better luck. SMH......
     
  14. flamingdts

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    So after throwing out a pile of misinformed crap, this is all you have to say when you are corrected?
     
  15. TEXNIFICENT

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    Dude, Its time to rebuild period whether Les thinks so or not. We're almost last in attendance. BTW, I'm on the OKC style rebuilding train because I don't "hate" anyone.

    Now run along because the sound of your incessant Morey bootlicking is starting to bore me.
     
  16. flamingdts

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    More misinformed crap.

    Who says I don't agree with rebuilding? I'm pointing out the fact that Morey's hands are tied because of what Les wants.

    I've already said Morey has his flaws, there is a thing called objectivity where when you look at evidence you go by it.

    You however act like Morey killed your dog and banged your girlfriend, and considering the fact that you think everyone here who has an objective opinion of him thinks he is a God he probably did.
     
  17. RV6

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    You're not getting it. Do you really think attendance matters more to you than Les? That may be his biggest concern of all. You don't understand that when a team rebuild its very difficult not to suck for a while. Do you think that's going to increase attendance? People are going to sell out the gym to watch losing basketball? blowouts?

    You think we're sucking up to Morey, but we simply understand why he's doing the rebuilding like this instead. Doesn't mean we always agree with it or would do it that was ourselves, but like i wrote before, you can't judge someone's effectiveness based on whether you like their plans or not.
     
  18. MadMax

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    I'm not going to go back through here and cite examples. I don't really feel compelled to prove it up to you. I gave you one example in particular. I can tell you people have called me out as a hater for daring to question. It is my perception, and it's one that I would say I'm not alone on.
     
  19. morpheus133

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    Let's go thru the most common reasons some people say Morey should be fired:

    1) Morey should be fired because he refuses to tank.

    A: Les has ruled tanking out as an option, so that is a non-gm related decision by the owner.

    2) Morey should be fired because he hasn't gotten a superstar.

    A: There is no reason to believe any other GM would have a super star here either. There is no reason to think Lebron, Bosh, Carmello, CP3, Wade, or any other star who has been on the trade blocks the past two years would have signed an extension after a trade to Houston regardless of who the GM was. The stars that have left by and large have had preset destinations in mind that already had one or more other stars there already. A star for these guys to play with is some thing the Rockets could not offer due to the injuries to Tmac and Yao regardless of who our GM was. The exception of the star already there rule being Deron Williams who may leave the Nets, and Amare who has been injury prone and his contract is not insured, neither of whom had Houston on their wish list of places to go. Morey did have the Pau Gasol trade approved by all teams involved before the historic blocking by Stern. Results matter more than what ifs, but it does show he is willing to make the move for an all star level player. Eventually he has to make it happen, but this is only a fireable offense if there is a good arguement to be made on why another GM would be having more success in this area.

    3) Morey should be fired because he treats his players like assets instead of people.

    A: There is some merit to this, but it is largely over blown in my opinion. Especially since many of the same people who are critical of Morey for not getting a star are mad he treats our non-stars like tradeable pieces. Morey should perhaps be more guarded in what he says publicly, but behind the scenes every good team is willing to trade any player on the roster if they think it will make the team better. While players might not like to hear about trade rumors, there are no players on this team so good as to think they should be untradeable. Of course this would mean less information for the fans and media from Morey as he would either have to say something silly like we think the team is a championship contender as is, or basicly not comment at all. The default "we are always looking to make the team better" comment is probably best in that case.

    4) Morey should be fired because he missed out on Jeremy Lin.

    A: As did every other GM in the league outside of the Knicks. They all had equal access to the film on him. Even the Knicks didn't know what they had as evidenced by the fact they didn't put him in the starting lineup until 24 games into the season after being forced by injury. If this is your primary arguement, firing Morey so you can replace him with some other GM that made the same mistake doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

    I really can't think of any other reasons people want Morey fired... but I'm sure some one else here will.
     
  20. choujie

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    Number of posts doesn't tell you the true story. My last post in this thread was 5 days ago.
     

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