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Daryl Morey on 790

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by justtxyank, Oct 17, 2013.

  1. cheke64

    cheke64 Member

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    Exactly. To make matter worse, these delusional dumbass fans have now resorted to stats. Look at Harden, he got a quaterpounder. It takes a team, not a ball hogging cancer looking to pad stat at the expense of a team win.
     
  2. Nook

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    This is absurd... just stop it.

    Again...... is Dorsey in the NBA? Is Pappa in the NBA? If Tarik is so good, why does he play 10 minutes a night on a terrible team? Pablo Prigioni is playing restricted minutes as well....... none of the guys you mentioned have played a major role this season. Indeed, only Pablo is on a halfway decent team.

    Of course the Rockets had problems last year, they won 56 games, not 76..... granted that was in the very competitive West and with severe injuries....... but the proof is in the pudding, they made the WCF at less than 100%.

    It is easy to view things in hindsight.... but you cannot discredit what they did, likewise you cannot look at the team this year and say "well this is a 50 win team"... reality is reality.
     
  3. YaoMing#1

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    The same numbers your alluding to had us as a championship caliber team the first year with dwight when had parsons and Lin.

    And that sucker was blown up as quick as dame lillards 3pt buzzer beater.

    My point is numbers do usually show what is really going on but last years team had heart and was mentally tough. You can't factor those attributes in numbers. We had a rough year with injuries and it made us fighters and battle tested and I believe with our talent flaws compared to other teams, we were able to prevail because of that very thing. Toughness.

    Now all the players drank the kool-aid this summer think we were better than we really were and its biting us in the ass.

    Hopefully they can regain that hunger come playoff time were anything can happen.
     
  4. Nook

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    At this point can you believe anything that anyone associated with the team says?

    The Rockets have been a massive disapointment....... Morey has said it, various Rockets players have said it, the owner has said it.

    What does anyone expect to hear Morey or anyone say at this point?

    Q: "Tough season Daryl? Worried about your job?"

    A: "Yup, ****ty season.... Le$ told me fix it or work at Sonic."
     
  5. jordnnnn

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    Hilarious thing I noticed in this thread.

    When we lost to Portland. The series we actually out scored Portland, there were a lot of people, me included who thought that more times than not we would have beat that team in a 7 game series. Some very lucky thing went Portlands way to get that win that year. That shot and I believe a couple egregious calls that the NBA admitted they missed at the end of 2 of the games.

    FTW was adamant that this was bull****. Claiming over and over the better team won, because the better team always wins or something like that. Luck had little to do with it and what not. I believe this was also around the time that he was positive that it would be impossible for ANY team coached by McHale to win even just one 1st round playoff series.

    A year later we need a miracle game to beat LAC and he's now arguing the complete opposite. The better team lost and we were very lucky to beat them and that 9/10 the clippers would have won that series. Now luck does play a part.

    Funny how that works.
     
  6. FTW Rockets FTW

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    Continue being a liar, twisting what others say and cherry picking stats. You fit in well with Lin fans both in terms of lack of basketball knowledge and lying.

    Please show me where in this thread I have ever claimed that we didn't deserve our victories or it was luck. You can't because you're a liar who gets off making up random stuff
     
  7. jordnnnn

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    lol my bad. Skimmed through the thread and thought the 9/10 comment was yours. It was one of your partners in crime los pollos. Everything else I mentioned is accurate as to what you have said and I doubt your feeling on that clippers series is all that much different than what chicken brothers had to say seeing as how you two are generally in lock step with each other.

    But you are right. I mistook that post as yours.

    admitting you are wrong sometimes isn't that difficult. You and some others would probably piss a lot less people off if you did it every once in a while.
     
  8. FTW Rockets FTW

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    It's ok. You do you man. You have now proven several times that you're a liar who just makes things up and when proven wrong makes some other assumptions like the bold.

    Keep twisting what people say. It fits your agenda.
     
  9. jordnnnn

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    True, you never said that Portland beating us wasn't luck and that we could never win a playoff series with McHale as a coach. It also isn't true that you and los pollos agree on most things Morey/harden/rockets in general.
     
  10. xiki

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    Thanks for this!

    And whassup w/the DMo answer avoidance? (Might they shut him down to hopefully re-sign on the cheap?)
     
  11. xiki

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    I hate this reply, but -- Nelson Jr is excellent and part of a first class FO.
     
  12. xiki

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    We have Scola here. His name is JET. Regrettably Luis is a shadow of Luis.
     
  13. J Sizzle

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    Everybody wants a less iso-heavy offense with actual offensive schemes. Who doesn't?

    Just yelling "TEAM BALL!!1" won't make that happen, though. You know that, right? Morey needs to hire a coach that is capable of implementing that type of offense.
     
  14. xiki

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    And just what would the station's ratings be if only hard core fans were tuned in?

    This bobs is, understandably, myopic. Folks, there are bigger pictures out there.
     
  15. xiki

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    Awesome (when translated into the Queen's English, that is).

    At least you got the ellipsis right.
     
  16. dmoneybangbang

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    I keep it gangsta, what can I say...

    God save the Queen and fish and chips!
     
  17. dobro1229

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    But how do you quantify what makes a GM great vs. okay to good? The truly great ones, what assets to they possess that make them great?

    -If you go with a "Good basketball mind/Former player" route, you almost certainly are going to lack the valuable business background & likely won't have the years of experience of knowing how to quantify and analyze data. I'm not talking just sports analytics. I'm talking about modern business acumen of being able to use technology to break down, and understand data at a rapid pace. You can't tell me someone whose been playing basketball professionally for 30+ years will have the same experience there that someone from that world will have that give you good executive experience.

    -Then you have someone that you pluck from the business world where they can break down data & have all the executive & personnel experience that you could ask for in a fortune 100 organization.... but they've never played in the NBA so they will never have the respect of the Charles Barkley's of this world.

    ............

    So what is it that makes a truly great GM great. Well we first have to pinpoint who the great ones were.

    Let's pluck one out and analyze.... is there anyone out there better than RC Buford??? What is it that makes RC great???... IMO his best asset is Greg Popovich. Whatever he wants to implement. Whatever he wants to transact from a player perspective, the fact that he has Greg Popovich to back him up and implement what he puts into place is his greatest asset. What does Popovich have that makes him great??... well if he had drafted Allen Iverson the year before instead of lucking out to get Duncan the year they happened to be in the lottery would Popovich have been Popovich?

    Point being, in the NBA the common denominator for what makes a GM great vs just okay is always going to be the people you put around you, or the people you are LUCKY enough to have around you.

    IMO Morey possesses skills that make him as good of a GM as anyone else could be, and I'm happy to have him. Morey is attached to Les as an owner, Adelman/McHale/and whoever is next as his coach, and likely James Harden will be the one who defines his GM legacy for better or worse. The book is still being written about where Morey is in terms of okay vs. good vs great. Most of that is in the hands of the people he attaches himself to.
     
  18. eman

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    Yes, we agree. I remember thinking, while watching UH beat LSU a couple weeks ago, look at that: Kelvin Sampson has the Coogs running the Rockets offense better that the Rockets run it!

    Of course, as ugly as our offense is, it's not as incompetent as our defense.

    We got problems, Houston. As JVG said last time he colored our game for ESPN: "I would encourage every child to turn this [game] off. If you want to learn about how to play basketball...Not here. Not tonight."
     
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  19. xiki

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    Rule B and all that, chappie.
     
  20. Rocket Guy

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    Morey is good at getting rotation players, adding picks and getting an All Star. He has never drafted an All-Star. Period.

    People will say...Morey has never had a draft pick inside the top ten. While this is true its not any excuse. There are 9 All Stars this year that were drafted outside the top 10.

    These are just facts. Now, I am not saying he has to be s*** canned but lets not act like he is in the same class as a Bob Myers, RC Buford or Sam Presti.
     
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