How full of yourself are you? You are posting on an internet forum, on a DARYL MOREY thread, and you are the only one who claims Brooks is an AVERAGE defender. To many, that is the definition for trolling. Someone going around proclaiming Hayes as a good 3 point shooter will probably be considered trolling around, and you're going around proclaiming Brooks as an average defender. Do you honestly expect no replies from this? You don't go personal eh? http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=5662646&postcount=83 Please, you take things personal before anyone else does. Talk about "mature"? You might want to review that thread and see who began the personal insults first. And for the record, if stats and the majority don't convince you that Brooks is bad on D, nothing will. Maybe if you stopped throwing around ridiculous comments, people would stop objecting to your opinions so much.
Not to hijack this thread away from the scintillating discussion of AB's defense, but did anyone listen to Morey's talk on 610? If so, recap/highlights please.
I said I do NOT take the first shot...... That was a continuation of a prior argument and you had been following me around for weeks sniping at my posts.... But post the entire thread for context and if it was me who started it, then I will owe you an apology, and will happily oblige. As you correctly pointed out it is an internet message board, full of people with all kinds of knowledge and skill levels. Some have a deep understanding, some have a good understanding, some a casual one, some don't understand the first thing about it, but everyone has the ability to comment......nothing wrong with that. And when folks post on whatever level they are, and get contradicted by folks on another level, arguments can happen.....everyone sees the game through their own experiences.... You are Mr. Clutch, you are Mr. Passive aggressive, you come into threads and make a snide little comment and then bail. Not saying it is bad, just pointing it out. It is what you do.....as for the annoying part, meh, some people find passive aggressive posts like yours annoying.... Your post in this very thread where you took a little jab at my saying "Brooks has been part of a good defensive team" is a prime example. DD
Yes. Here's the link again for people who missed it: http://kilt.cbslocal.com/2010/12/09/daryl-morey-with-marc-and-john-12910/#more-27438
Your kidding right??.. I knew you were all about Aaron Brooks and everything but to think that Courtney Lee is a starter over Kevin Martin is pretty crazy. To me, the logical thing to do would be to bring Brooks off the bench while he is working his way back from injury and increase his minutes in time to full time starter later in the month to January. Lee has yet to prove that he should be a starter over Martin. Martin on the other hand, is only 6th in the league in scoring right now.
Out of all of the starting PGs in the league...Brooks is probably very very low on that list as far as defending goes... In my eyes that makes him a below average defender...
I am saying "IF" you wanted balance that is how you would be better served getting it. Lee is a better defender but is not bad on offense either.....whereas Martin is good on offense but a zero on defense. Either way, I would start Brooks and Martin.....so it is what it is. DD
And I'm telling you, you do. I just gave you evidence. http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=194645&page=5&pp=20 Please, if I refute your comments, I'm "sniping" at you? Am I not allowed to refute your comments now, or are you too good to acknowledge other posters? Do we need to beg for your permission before replying to something as ridiculous as "Brooks is average on D"? You don't think people know that? So why do you have the need to go around boasting how much more educated you are in the game of basketball than everyone else? Do you see posters like Bimathug or Durvasa, posters who have shown great understanding in how the game works, boasting about their knowledge? Do you see them condescending other posters and calling everyone out for "having no basketball knowledge'? What makes it worse is you're proven wrong, yet you still feel the need to belittle others. Whatever. You can put me back on your ignore list if it means so much to you. I don't need you broadcasting to the whole world that I'm placed on it because to be honest, I don't care and I doubt others care too.
If they start AB when he comes back, it means that they will trade AB. In contrast, if they let AB come off the bench, it would mean the rockets want to keep him.
So will Adelman, I think. But if the perimeter defense takes a bit hit, I could see a change being made. I think Lowry starting over Brooks is more likely than Lee starting over Martin -- not that I'm convinced that's the best arrangement. In a half-court offensive set, Brooks is our most important player, and I like Lowry's energy off the bench with a more up-tempo second unit.
You are correct, I owe you an apology. No, I don't see them doing that, it is clearly a fault of mine. When proven wrong I admit it, when it is a matter of opinion as our argument about the last play, there is no right and wrong, only opinion. I am taking you off of it, you did not deserve it. DD
I agree it takes a hit, but I believe the team thinks like I do and realizes that perimeter defense is very difficult with the new rules and players basically able to carry the ball it is impossible to stay in front of almost anyone. That is why you need someone at the rim, which I think is vital. I concur, and I honestly think that Lowry was one of the biggest reasons CBud was so successful last year, he always sought him out on the breaks and it got his confidence going. DD
Good Morning Daryl, Hows it going? Good Morning Marc and John. I follow you on twitter. Awhile back, during tough stretch, you were quoting poets from romantic era trying to find inspiration and then they turned it around a bit. You said we needed a D victory. Ask and ye shall recieve. Rockets have won 4 out of 6 and playing better. What is key difference? Clearly my tweets! Gotta be it! Our guys are palying hard. Chemistry is developing. Scola, Lowry playing good. Contributions up and down the roster. We're excited to get Aaron and Yao back here not too long. Aaron will I think come back first. Last year with Aaron and Kyle on the floor, we really took off. That gotta be a key. Why improved 3 pt shooting from Lowry. He is in the middle of the 2 extremes. Couldnt hit early, now hitting them all. Reality is never as good as your best day, never as bad as your worst day. He'll probably be 33-35% shooter. That is about his level. Roughly where he is at, though I'm not sure. Explain out indefinitely for Yao? I can explain how it happened for me, he was on track to come back early. He doesnt have pain. He had a live oncourt workout with Docs in attendance. While he was out, his ankle is weak. Being conservative. Want our S&C folks to focus on building/rebuilding the muscle around the ankle. Getting his balance back and things like that. Going back to Lowry, overall much improved play is health, right? Back injury was tough. He didnt have anything wrong, his back just started spasming. Came back rusty. Now back to the Lowry that another team was chasing in FA. Evaluate Martin? Played one of his best games I thought. He as active on D. Got 5 rebs. Past game was one of his best. Wasnt in at the end but because Coach is one who when he finds a unit who beats up on the other team, he'll stick with that. Sometimes that means you dont get back in, sometiems that means playing 44 minutes. Whats going on with the O? Like the way your moving on O. Is it guys getting it or something else happening? Coach Adelman system is read and react. Takes time to build chemistry. Kyle and Luis built P&R. Pushing the tempo well. All those are reasons. What about Hill? Just takes time to develop? Yeah. I liked his minutes early in the game. Made some mistakes. Happened to be that whole unit struggled. Over next 2 weeks, there is no margin for error. We need to get back in this thing. Coach saw we needed to win with vets and went that way. As long as we win, thats all that anyone cares about. Jordan will get opportunities. When he plays well, he'll get more. If its not him, if hes on the floor and unit isnt playing well, that might affect his minutes as well. You said Rick wants to stick with the good thing. How does this affect Aaron and implementing him? I dont know how coach will do that. Thats his area. Im excited to have the problem. He gives us...got a couple skills that no one else really brings. Can get open without needing anyone else. Kevin needs to cut and move off screens. We can get Luis the ball but you can take him out via double team. Aaron one of the few who is hard to double team. He can also get us key shots late. Good problem to have. ... DM: Rumors about us signing some players. All those rumors are false. Patrick Patterson... H: How about that last night! DM: Encouraged. Played better than actual stats. Deep at the big club. Encouraged. Patrick may come up, even for some practice time, even if doesnt see the floor. H: on PP, sometimes number lie but seems hes putting it together. DM: Yeah. Double double machine. Shows hes better than that level. We think guys get better by playing. Gets to work on his game. It'll help his development. [Caller]: Brooks and Lee are better matched and Lowry and Martin better matched, when Brooks comes back, is Lee minutes going to go down? Your thoughts? DM: I would agree. I like balance. I like mixing Lee with Aaron and Kyle and Aaron. I like having that mix. Not my job though. I dont need to tell him how to do it. I do like 1 offense, 1 defense out there. [Caller]: Budinger confidence seems to be affecting him overall. Is trip to the Vipers you consider? If/When Yao comes back, 24 minutes limit still there? DM: Good callers today. Chase has struggled. Let missed shots affect other parts of game. Coach will work him in situations where he can build confidence up. The way the minors are used is changing. More like baseball. We were first to send down a lottery pick. 4 teams then followed suit. We're the pioneers. Right now, not in the works though with Budinger. Coach will work him in at pro level. He believes in him. On Yao, we will be on same program. If he plays well, increase could quickly come. H: On subject of player development, age requirements brought up for draft. Does this mean expansion for D-league. DM: I have strong opinions but I'll have to keep to myself. H: If it came to that, could you forsee more D-league teams? DM: We'll have to stay away from that. Not sure what I can comment on. [Caller]: Can Chuck Hayes get more touches? DM: Was that a prank call? We love how Chuck plays. Has mixed up his O. PRobably depends on his defender. [Caller]: Stance on player discipline? DM: Do we use minor leagues to punish players? No. We dont see it for that. I do think, coaches will play guys more or less on their mistakes. Maybe I'm misunderstanding question. [Caller]: Seemed like at first, with yao and 20 minutes, did you see that, with the depth, being a distraction? With him going out, it being easier for Coach to get things working out. Understand what Im saying? DM: I dont. [Caller]: Instead of knowing hes out, having to work on rotations with him out and not worry about 20 min part. H: We've asked, can it be disruptive working him back in? DM: I think so. Still best thing though to get our season where we want it to go to. We do need to work him in. Hard to work any player in, especially if they got chemistry. If our season wants to go where we want to, some point Yao gotta be there and playing well. Something we gotta deal with. H: Appreciate the time. Good luck tomorrow. DM: Tough one. They struggled like us. Skiles a hell of a coach. They'll give us a fight. Hopefully we can get that one. We need to get back to .500 and then back in the mix. Last seed could be in 42-45 win range this year. H: Thanks for the time. DM: Thanks for having me on.
Thanks, hsf09. I can't follow Morey sometimes. Dakota, average, below average... whatever, I think we all agree that Kyle's presence is superior on that side of the court. Not only in 1on1 or p&r. Overall defense, help presence, rebounding help, extra steals/blocks, charges, and the most important, he steps up when the game is on the wire, he's very competitive. I've said A LOT of stuff that Brooks is not able to do, you cannot underestimate all that. The PG is crucial to the colective defense, defense always starts with him, he sets the trend. Kyle gives the team another attitude, if you have played basketball you'll know that when your PG plays a good D all other players tend to defend more. He leads us in this regard and the team desperately needs it. With Yao+Shane+Kyle you can have a very solid defensive base, and they may involve Martin and Scola in the dynamic.
That's probably my fault on the recaps. Probably better to actually listen to his words than try to comprehend what I'm typing from him. Anyhow, everyone is welcome.
Spoiler Good Morning Daryl, tough one last night. Overall, gotta be happy with the way the team is trending though. Am I correct in saying that? We have been playing better. Hoping it turns into more wins. Yesterday did some good things. Problems on D popped up. D rebounding and fouling too much biggest issues. Hung with them for awhile. They made some tough shots. Final score didnt...made it look worse. Should have been a close game. I was thinking to myself, we say finish the game, finish the game. Almost as if you had to finish every quarter. Somehow, someway there was a letdown or they got on a roll or combo of both. We've always been a poor end of quarter team. Last year worst in the league. This year not as bad. Another problem though we have actually improved on that one. Yesterday, yeah you're right, we had letdowns at end of each quarter. Obviously if you knew it, you would do it but back to back situations and the way you perform in the 2nd half of back to backs, a lot of teams have difficult with this, but your thoughts on that issue? We need to be high energy to win in back to backs and that makes them more difficult but every team has them and gotta fight through it. Official word on Terrence Williams. Athletically, cant beat it. On D, is this where you see immediate impact and how will he be implemented? Yeah hes definitely a 2 way player in terms of potential. Has more potential than anything right now though hasnt proven anything. Couple good runs in NJ. Already had triple double in a NBA game. Got potential to be a top starter though obviously hasnt proven that yet. Can rebound, really rebound at that position, which we need, can pass, really good ball handler. On D, got both desire and ability. Big time competitor. Have big time hopes for him over time. Early, not sure how much he'll play. That's up to coach. We got a pretty good thing going, we're winning games, guys playing well. Not sure how much he'll get in early. Talent...as long as he comes in with the right approach, his talent is so high he's gonna get on the floor. Coach Adelman is great at giving guys a shot. He'll get a shot to do show what he can do if he shows what he can do in practice. Wanna follow up on that, all the talk about potential and attitude, thats the story with him. You have a good locker room there, and gotta find balance of can he come in and turn things around or turn it the other ways? Everyone tells us he's a good kid including NJ. He did get sideways with Avery Johnson. That's really been the only time in his career he had issues. Talking with Coach Pitino and I know Coach Walter McCarty well in Boston who knows Terrence well, they tell you hes a good kid and coachable. Really no issues. Talented guy who when you get with talented guys, someone who believes in his abilities and sometimes that manifests itself in ways that could get a coach upset. And I think thats what may have happened in NJ. We're gonna judge him as we know him here. Not gonna worry about the past. Clean slate and judge him as he is here and how he plays. We can imagine all the calls you make trying to get info on players. You wanna get those references, personal endorsments. Give us an idea of how many people you talk to in different places when trying to evaluate players you want to obtain. We do tons of background calls. Gerrson Rosas, Sam Hinkie, our whole staff is connected to both college and pro ranks. Obviously we invest millions of dollars and whenever you do that, you're looking at every angle. I do think often that info could mislead just as often it helps. A lot of guys fall in the draft for example because their coach didnt like them in college. That info is often perfectly correct but often that info leads you not to take a talented guy. The way I describe it is....a lot of teams including us will do physcological profiles of young guys in the draft or young guys you trade for. I think of it as, you go back to yourself at age 20-21, did you know who you wanted to be, were you finished as what you were going to be as a person? Reality is no. There is no way psychologists can figure out who these guys are because they dont know who they are yet, so how is another person gonna figure them out? Often, when you're young like this, all of a sudden, they can decide I'm gonna take a fresh look at this and I'm gonna be a different guy. We'll see over time how this works out. I'm still trying to figure out what I'm gonna be when I grow up. I think you're accurate there. (laughing) Update on Aaron Brooks? I think, there is a pretty good chance he goes Friday. One more update with docs, not for sure, but looks like he could be in our next game against Memphis potentially. Update on Yao? Yao gonna be longer. He is ramping out but ramp up is a lot slower than anyone anticipated. As he adds to his workout to get him back, there is all these check-in points that the docs use. Each check-in points are slower than anticipated. Jordan Hill, he's an interesting guy. We just talked about guys not knowing what they're gonna be professionally in their early-mid 20s. He is doing interesting things for you. Slowly but surely things coming around. I agree with that. You see the steady progress. 2 steps forward 1 step back. He knows that. We work with him constantly on D breakdowns. Those are trending downwards. O trending upwards. I do compare him to Terrence a little bit. Got every physical tool, every ability in the world. Looks like Jordan is starting to put it together. Not where he's a consistent player who helps you win. Where you wanna get to is like Scola. Every night you know what he's gonna give you. Shane and Kyle too. Kyle very consistent. Thats his next step. Be consistent when hes out there. Not there yet. All the trends positive. Terrence the same. Every physical ability to be top starter like Jordan does. Those are the kind of bets we need to make. Need to make bets on guys who have that ability. Will he make it for sure? We dont know. Do we think he has a good chance? We do or else we wouldnt have made the investment in him. Next segment, we get a lot of talk on NFL labor situation, but if you could break it down down and we'll try not to get you fined. You want me to break down NFL labor situation? Yeah that too! But the NBA so the listeners have an idea. David Stern talked about the "nuclear options" yesterday so thoughts on that. ... Wanted to ask, reader digest on CBA in the NBA? Really sorry, cant answer. I'm gonna avoid that. Really cant talk? Really cant. ... [Caller]: Jordan Hill coming on. Courtney Lee too. Is Williams capable of playing SF? I like HIll but Lee is the best players on the team. He can do everything. Philosophy wise, how can you get consistent play with inconsistent minutes? Absolutely he can play the 3. 6'6, long and athletic. Like his D at 2-3. On consistent play and inconsistent minutes, fair point but all young players go through that. Coach gotta put best players out there who helps him win on a given night. When hes giving it to them, get him out there more, when hes not, they dont. Just the reality. [Caller]: Last week, I asked you about player discipline and Terrence Williams. A week later he is a Rocket. I'll take partial credit if it works out. Yeah if it doesnt work out, you can say you werent behind it. [Caller](same one): Since you're taking Nets players, Lopez would be nice. Unfortunately, people say he had issues here and issues there. To get a player with Jordan and Terrence's talent level, these guys who havent porven it yet, there gotta be some issues. That's why we are able to acquire them. Youre choosing what issues you think are ok to take a bet on. Terrence, did a lot of research on him, we think he has a chance to turn it around here. [Caller](same one): On Jordan Hill, just keep talking to him. Dont let him become just a hustle player. Stay on him. (laughing)Yeah we isolate him. It's funny, probably not the case seems like there is far more babysitting going on. Maybe a harsh word but seems like that. Part of the jub huh? Keith Jones, our trainer, says I'm just a professional babysitter. Like we said, these guys are so young. They need some mentoring. [Texter]: How did you get started in basketball? What drew you into it? What other sports of interest? I was into basketball because that was my sport growing up. Wasnt good enough to play for the Houston Rockets or even Sam Houston State. That was the sport I played. Always interested. The story to get in to the pros is too long and too boring. A lot of...serendipity. Gotta be ready to take advantage of the opportunity. Your industry is the same. Hard to get into to. No one has the same story. You get this opportunity and that opportunity and now I'm here. Never plan it. I stalked people. (laughing) Thats how I got my wife. After a couple restraining orders she gave in. It just clicked. Wanted to ask, a lot of people associate you with Boston. From Cleveland or spent time in Ohio didnt you? Yeah, I was born in Wisconsin, grew up in Ohio. Spent all school in Ohio then I was in Boston. Curious if you ever got to meet Bob Feller. I wasnt big time. I was in the stands when Albert Bell threw the ball at the fan. That wasnt you was it? Wasnt me. I was just a regular fan in Cleveland so I didnt get to meet guys like Bob Feller. I heard unbelievable things about him and one of the great talents. ESPN was hyping the Celtics-Knicks like a rivalry. You worked with the Celtics and know thats not a rivalry. Knicks getting good again. Good for the NBA . Yeah, not good for us. Good they lost but dont need the Knicks being good right now. Yeah beacuse of the picks. Sorry. They're playing well. I think at the end of the year, good chance we'll have more wins than them. Doesnt look that way right now but I have a good feeling that will go down to the wire in terms of us vs. them. Thanks for the time. Best of luck. Got some good last minutes gifts on Rockets.com. Head to Rockets.com Thanks a lot Daryl. Thanks, appreciate it. http://kilt.cbslocal.com/2010/12/16/daryl-morey-with-marc-and-john-121610/
^^ Very encouraged to see AB might be back Friday or at the very worst the game after. We need him, offense is fine but to often we run into scoring droughts...he can cure that problem. I like what he said about TWill and his potential and also Hill's stock...looks like they have some pretty high hopes for both.
