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Daryl Morey on 610 This Morning

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by v3.0, Nov 19, 2008.

  1. CheezeyBoy22

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    I totally agree with you on this. They need more blocking. Yao is great at clogging up the lane. He doesn't get as many block as you would like but that's ok. Deke is very important for this team. He's blocking and his leadership.

    With that said, they don't want to over spend right now. Their key goal is to get under the luxury tax. I do think that Morey is looking to make a trade but I think he's also trying to see how this team pans out from now till the all-star break.

    Just give it time folks. Championships are not won at this point of the season. The Celtics made tweaks during the regular season before the playoffs started. Look at Sam Cassel and PJ Brown. Those are good examples.
     
  2. CheezeyBoy22

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    Well the NBA is about match ups. There's certain teams you can get away with not having a big. And there are teams you can't do that with not having a backup big. Do you remember Game 7 against Utah? A rebound sometimes is all that matters.
     
  3. v3.0

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    Shaq was matched up with Yao pretty much the whole night. When Yao went out, Shaq went out. Amare is an offensive beast, please tell me what Deke or other bigs you can think of that is feasibly attainable for Daryl that can contain Amare. I didn't think so.

    If Deke joins, he's a limited minutes guy anyways. And he's 93. It's not like we're a complete team without flaws that will run the table on the NBA all of a sudden if Deke or some scrub big who's taller then 6'10 joins the team.

    I sorta remember a 7'5 guy on the floor when that happened.

    Rebounding is all about positioning yourself between your opponent and ball and boxing out your opponent. Height only comes into play when you don't do those things well. Seems like we don't box out and position well. Maybe we should work on those things instead.
     
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    Thanks for the recaps everyone.
     
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    i still think doresy can contribute if we throw a smaller team out there to run a bit, against a slower team dorsey is the best finisher on the fastbreak with landry. I think he could help out a bunch if they could just give him spot minutes.... look at landry situation it took til jan for the man to play....and look how much he contributed last year!
     
  6. CheezeyBoy22

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    Yeah but who was the powerfoward that night? Yeah... Height is very important. There are not many short players that rebound soo great. Barkley and Rodman? They were different. Scola has rebounded the ball better than anyone this season.

    You need height. When Yao is out of the game, there are many of times where teams have punished the Rockets for that. Rebounding and defensive is key for this team. The great thing is the Rockets defensive has really picked up in the pass 5 games.
     
  7. v3.0

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    Your gonna blame Chuck Hayes for not getting that rebound? That 3 inch height advantage that Boozer had must have really made a difference. Okur? How about Yao using his 7'5 frame to box him out?

    No, the Rockets need to learn to how to box out more then they need height. Height is an easy excuse of why we are getting outrebounded. More like bad technique and bad positioning.

    Again please tell me what magical move outside of Deke (who will be used sparingly anyways if he joins) can Morey make for a serviceable big man. I rest my case.

    Please stop whining about height. It's like whining about TMac's health or lack of it. It's like whining about Yao's toughness or lack of it. Head, you can whine about him all you want, he deserves it.
     
  8. Hayesfan

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    Was Chuck in the game or Juwan?
     
  9. CheezeyBoy22

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    Please stop whining about boxing out. Are you not watching the games? I have a feeling you're not. Just watch the game against Portland. I don't care how much you block out. Landry,Hayes, and Scola are not going to out jump Aldridge or the Chris fellow. Hell, even Oden. They will tip that ball right out from them.

    Look at the Lakers and other teams with height and with active 4's and 5's. They will kill us. I'm not saying Morey will be able to address it but what I will say is that team rebounding has got to get better. Last year, they used to be one of the best. Infact, they were a better rebounding team when Deke was in the lineup.

    One of the main reasons why they are winning right now is because of their defense. Look at the pass 5 games.
     
  10. Hayesfan

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    I don't think you understand the principles behind boxing out.

    If a person gets position effectively in a box out, then they can't "just tip it" away from them without fouling.

    It's called "over the back".
     
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    If a player is not reaching over another player then it's not over the back. It happens all the time. I know what boxing out is.
     
  12. Hayesfan

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    How exactly can a player not be reaching over if you put a body on them and they are behind you?

    That's what I meant about being in the right position. If you get in front of someone and box them out correctly they can't get the ball without reaching over.
     
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    After seeing that video with the chick, I don't want to fight anymore.... hehe
     
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    Thanks for the Recap!
     
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    Wow Steve Francis practiced :D :D . We won't see him unless there is an injury to Alston or Brooks. Thats bad. I guess people don't understand Steve can play the 1 or 2. Plus with the way McGrady is feeling, if Battier isn't ready I would play Steve at the 2 until Mac gets healthy if he needs some rest. Yes I'll play steve over wafer because wafer is NOT THAT GOOD.
     
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    Sounds too bad. A lot more years of hopes for the rockets.
     
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    Over the back happens when the boxed out player uses his off hand for leverage or to push off the player in position. At our height difference opponents don't need to do that to get a tip. How many times this season has guys at least tipped the ball in another direction resulting in another offensive board. Also I've have seen way too many instances where we had to fight for a simple rebound after about 3 to 4 tips. It's not encouraging. And even so, refs won't call over the back all the time, especially with the way they screw us over as it is.

    For Morey's case, I understand he would be tired of being asked about someone to backup Yao. But this is a glaring weakness we're talking about. I, along with everyone else, am completely pleased with the way all our PF's are playing. Nobody sees any issue there. Fact is you can't teach height. We need it. We've been outrebounded too many times due to height alone.
     
  18. v3.0

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    over the back is not pushing off in back. That's simply called a push off. Over the back is simply what its called, over the back. The rule was created so players who worked to get good rebounding positions are given the benefit of the doubt over players who are out of position.

    Rebounding is not some super secret skill that only a select few are born with. Most of it is just plain huffort.
     
  19. shakegod

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    Although Francis is practised,but before he can represent Rockets,there are still a long way to go.Francis need to prove he is back,he can do his role well.If he can practise good enough,hope he can on the court January(I dont think he can in the rotation much earlier),Now I'm still have faith in Francis. :)
     

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