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Daryl Lessy

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Francis3422, Jan 8, 2011.

  1. meh

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    So his method, based on the the ultra small sample size, is that his method works in terms of getting the best players possible 2 out of 3 times.

    In the late 1st round or lower, isn't that method amazingly successful? Any other GM has a method that hits at a higher success rate without going to under-sized players?
     
  2. DaDakota

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    No, I just havent bothered to look and see if anyone is better.....have you?

    At least Brooks was in a position of need.

    I think it was clear the team had needs at the C position and has basically been ignored as they tried to win in the moment.

    Personally, I think Morey has learned his lesson well, and will continue to draft prospects that are a bit bigger and more athletic...

    DD
     
  3. meh

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    I have since glanced at previous 2nd rounds of those drafts and didn't see anyone eye-popping.

    Morey wanted Chandler, but a trade fell apart plus Dallas had a non-guaranteed contract for trade.
    Morey wanted Haywood, but Dallas gave him an insane contract.
    Morey wanted Bosh, but he didn't know about the collusion.
    Morey wanted Yao... well, more hoping probably.

    There seems to be absolutely no indication that Morey hasn't looked at centers. But name the last true center with size drafted #25 or lower who became a stud in one or two years. If there are lots of them, and Morey's been passing on them, THEN your argument would make sense.
     
  4. acsorelle4

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    So this thread is still going huh? Wow.
     
  5. DaDakota

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    I want $10 million dollars, does that mean I will get it?

    LOL....seriously, he needs to control the things he can control, wanting and doing are two vastly different things.

    He may WANT a center, but he has yet to GET a center, and he could have DRAFTED a center so that he would HAVE one....

    DD
     
  6. saintja2

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    See your own sig. Why draft one, when the D-League/Europe is full of these bums you want Morey to pick?
     
  7. thaGREATwall

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    He also tried to get Thabeet. There just simply haven't been any centers that seemed like they were worth drafting at that point. I'd love to see a list. Other than DeAndre Jordan, who has Morey missed on? Patterson looks like he was a great pick so any bigs picked after him would have been a stretch. Admittedly Dorsey was a bad pick, but any second rounder is a risk.

    Once again, please show me your list of all the centers Morey has missed on that we had a legitimate chance of getting.
     
  8. Rockets4279

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    I think the C position is a top priority they really need some size and length out there. I say take a chance on Whiteside while i think he'll be a steal once he fully develops. In fact i put Whiteside above any superstar we can get besides Granger as top priority.
     
  9. GATER

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    Count us both in that minority. ;)

    By definition, $Ball is a risk averse philosophy. Morey was brought in to institute quantitative analysis which is the full 180 from evaluating talent visually and skillfully.

    There are those that would deny that $Ball is risk averse. But when you're most significant incoming trade contract is $10M for Martin and your largest FA re-sign is Scola @ $8M, that's not much of an argument when compared to what $ other GM's spend.

    I'm on the fence given the expiration of the current CBA. But you'd have to think Yao's large expiring contract (along with that of Battier and/or Jeffries), should at least get you to the table where the high-rollers are talking trade. We'll see.
     
  10. saintja2

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    Well he could have picked Marc Gasol.

    But out of the tens of fat, slow and hairy European center prospects with funny names, Gasol is about the only one with any real impact and he is no superstar.
     
  11. Rockets4279

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    We'll said i'm not a believer in $ball either. There is just to much wrong in not evaluating talent off of a statistical computer. The things like chemistry, impact, players attitudes and body language just don't register on a statistical computer. And there is more like Injuries, clutch etc....
     
  12. Easy

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    Unable to pull off big trades is not the same as unwilling to do such trades. Unless you believe the pursuits of Amare, Bosh, and Anthony are all smoke screens, I don't know how you can say that Daryl Morey does not want to take big risks. Statistical analysis gives you the basis for taking calculated risks, rather than blind risks.
     
  13. MadMax

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    you no longer have the right to speak for me.

    i'm saying that's the breaks...that's the way it goes. it's pro sports. you can think it's stupid all you want...but ultimately if they don't start making the playoffs regularly (particularly in a sport where more teams make the playoffs than don't) Morey will be looking for a new job. maybe as some sort of assistant on the set of Tron 3.
     
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    Morey is who he is. He works hard, and has tried his best.

    The problem is why Les hires him, an inexperienced rookie GM, never played professional babll. It seems Les appreciates Morey's moneyball theory. When Les hired morey, Les had decided the direction of the rockets organization. Now, the result isn't good. Les should take the responsibility for it.
     
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    Morey has done the best he could given that is hands have been tied regarding Yao. You can bet, given his impact on merchandising, that Les pretty much forbade Morey from trading Yao before this last injury. Oh well.
     
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    MEMBER OF THE: 1) Give Scola more shots 2) Let a healthy Aaron Brooks shut you up 3) Let PatPat play more CLUBS
     
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    ^ ooops please ignore supposed to be for my sig.
     
  18. meh

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    Umm... What did I just say that was different from this post? I basically said sports is a result-oriented business. Otherwise why would I say that you need to keep changing front office people until the win?

    Heck, I didn't even say it was stupid. I said it was smart, actually. Because you need to use scapegoats to keep renewing fan interest. When fans starts to blame the owner is when things generally really go bad.

    So oddly enough, you really shouldn't be putting words into my mouth.
     
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    Aren't you basically proving my point? You keep saying Morey ignores size and ignores centers. Now you're saying he's just keeping the bar too high? What's a low enough bar for you? Keep in mind he must be a better player than Miller or Hayes.
     
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    What does playing professional bball have anything to do with being a GM? Jordan and Isiah should be great GMs if they were somehow related.
     

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