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Daryl Denying Dwight, Analytics, and the Hard-Headedness of Dwight Regarding PnR vs Post-Up

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by cdrive, May 20, 2016.

  1. basketballholic

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    We owe him $23 million for the 2016-17 season. You are being Les level delusional to think otherwise.
     
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    He didn't modify anything since he complained about his lack of post-touches to our GM, and even admitted himself that he became disintrested in the game, meaning he didn't put in 100% effort when he was on the court. In what bizarro world is this an acceptable attitude?
     
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    yes, we owe him $23 million for not even giving 100% effort on both ends of the court (which he admitted), and being a cancerous influence on our team's morale by refusing to play hard, bringing everyone else down with him.
     
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    I never said his attitude was acceptable. Once again, you are trying to make this about Dwight when we recruited him, promised him a chief role, and committed to pay him to play for us for 4 seasons. It's on the franchise for making those commitments and not wanting to be held to them.
     
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    Just like we owe Harden 2 more seasons and around $31 million for not giving maximum effort on both ends and admitting to us he didn't come to camp in shape and influencing team morale negatively by taking private limos to the games instead of riding the team bus. See that?

    Goose.......gander
     
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    This whole post is about Dwight, and Dwight's attitude is what's discussed here, so of course I'm going to harp on Dwight. Dwight was paid millions to play like a pro but he didn't, and just flat out gave up like a little bi*ch due to some selfish reasons, there is no other way to interpret this situation.
     
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    no, because you've got no evidence of that, whereas Dwight himself admitted that he became 'disinterested' in the game, which means he gave up.

    Dwight was the main cancer of this team, just admit it.
     
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    I have no evidence of Harden being out of shape, not playing defense, and taking private limos to road games??

    ROFL



    By the way, still waiting for you to answer my two questions. You want to go back and forth on James/Dwight with me but you don't want to answer two basic questions. Please answer.

    Harden's beard:

    1. Who should be our next head coach?

    2. What is the weakest component of our basketball style and system that has to be improved for us to be a real contender for the championship?
     
  9. ksny15

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    Every person in the world knows Howard sucks in the post except Holic and Howard himself.
     
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    being out of shape due to an ankle injury and having better DRPM than Dwight relative to his postion.

    yes, you've got no evidence.

    Dwight admitted in his own words that he gave up, whereas Harden didn't. Get that?
     
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    Read my posts. I was telling this board he sucks on post-ups way before Hardens beard was. And probably before Hardens Beard got here.
     
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    Here’s what Jason Terry had to say on @TheHerd in response to Dwight Howard’s comments about Daryl Morey.

    [rQUOTEr] Jason Terry: "But I said ‘Dwight, sometime in your career, you are going to have to decide do you want to become a champion? If becoming a champion means set more screens, roll harder to the basket, run the floor more, then that’s what you have to do. You can’t worry about if I’m getting touches in the post. It doesn’t matter. It’s whatever your team needs you to do on that particular night to get the win. So Daryl Morey didn’t say we aren’t going to give you the ball. We’re just not going to give it to you in the post because that's not our style of play." [/rQUOTEr]
    lol basketballholic, you were the one clamoring for getting Howard more involved in our offense all year, and now it turns out that Dwight was not interested in playing pnr and wanted more post touches. So how are you going to justify your position? No one has anything against Dwight setting hard picks and rolling hard to the basket, and if that's what is meant by getting Howard more involved offensively, then everybody agrees. But that's not what Dwight has in his mind. He wanted to be like Hakeem or Kareem, and play with his back to the basket. He complained about lack of post touches and that was precisely the reason Howard got disinterested in the game, and why he displayed poor effort on both ends of the court.

    Your whole schtick against Harden that he's preventing Howard from getting good offensive possessions and Dwight has no other option than to play post-up because of Harden or whatever has been just exposed. Dwight wanted more post touches, in his own words.
     
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    but you still advocate for feeding Howard the ball when what he really wants is post-up and nothing else, which means you are a delusional homer.
     
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    82 games of video is enough. Not to mention the passle of professionals and former pros including hall-of-famers who say so.

    Oh, his former coach too.

    And James himself has admitted his defense sucks.


    Delusional - believing James Harden gave 100% on both ends of the court, took care of his body, did not stay out late partying the days before games, and was in tip top shape with no distractions the whole season.

    Frankly, I'm worried about James. The playoffs are still on going. We haven't even gotten to the Finals. And he's already tangled up with Khloe again and involved in a dust up with the paparazzi. You'd have to be delusional not to see his regression this season.
     
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    Who cares what was admitted and what wasn't? You keep harping on that even though we have the benefit of hindsight. For instance, Harden denied being out of shape yet we could all see he was. What's more credible....what Harden said or what we all saw? It's fine if you want to blame the ankle injury since we all known you'll bend over backwards to defend Harden, but that's really a stupid excuse.

    We've all seen players rehab from more serious injuries (surgery, broken bones) without becoming noticeably overweight. Generally, it's a matter of finding their rhythm and regaining their stamina. Even with a sprained ankle, it should be pretty easy for a professional athlete to stay in shape.
     
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    yes, 82 games of Dwight not trying and admitting himself is enough for me to conclude that he was the real cancer on this team.
     
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    blah blah blah.. where is the evidence?

    Dwight admitted himself that he gave up. Harden didn't. Confession is regarded as one of the most decisive evidences in the court. If this was the court case, Howard would have been found guilty long ago.
     
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    But you are stupid enough to believe that Howard is better offensive option than other players on this team, when the WAY he wants to play is not efficient at all, so giving more offensive possessions to Howard doesn't make sense, and he doesn't want to play pnr or other types of play, so what do you expect his teammates to do?

    Dwight was the one alienating his teammates all year by showing poor effort on both ends of the court due to some trivial, selfish reason that only he sees as a problem. Guess you're not that bright after all if you can't see who was the real cancer and negative influence on this team, even after all these evidences came out.

    We are not going to win a single championship with Dwight - with his terrible offense and declining defense - being our starting center, let alone our 2nd star. He was the one holding everyone else down this year, including Harden. Get that through your thick head.
     
  19. SF3isBack!!

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    WOW you're insane, lol. Dwight admitted to quitting. He admitted to wanting post touches and when he didn't get it he quit. His own words. The Rockets logically wanted screens and picks and Dwight wanted to post up. You're just trolling out of anger at this point.
     
  20. wekko368

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    Evidence of Harden being overweight? Game footage.

    And in court, video proof is more compelling than confession.
     

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