You really think an undrafted FA is the key to Rox's champ hopes and not signing him means letting the fans, the team and our superstar down? I wonder how Rivers and Gerald Green feel. They have been even more important and impactful than House but I guess those two don't matter, clearly the championship lies not on Harden, Gordon, Capela or even Cp3, everything depends on Danuel freaking House
Morey doesn't want to be used as a springboard by House, its that simple. House and his agent want a 1 yr deal because they can benefit from James Harden and build up his stock, and then get a pay day next year from another team. What Morey is saying makes sense, you don't wnat to invest in a player and have him walk away. If House wants to play hardball then I support Morey letting him stay in the Gleague and looking for other talent. Nunnally didnt work out but there are 1000s other candidates out there.
You are making assumptions to support your claim that Morey is unreasonable. Until Woj or someone as credible confirms contract terms I will give Rockets and Morey benefit of doubt that there are things that House's agent is not telling us.
If Knight contract is still in the book, Tilman is not planning to use MLE. Thus trade Knight as early as possible.
I get that... I also get that Morey is simply cutting off his nose to spite his face... wtf do we care if he 'builds his stock' and gets some team to give him a payday in the off season? We can utilize him now - and obviously he will be invested to do his best - being a contract year... What are we investing? cost of a minimum contract? Time of bringing him in? Time to get him acclimated? Tying up a roster spot on a 1 year deal - like Rivers? like GG? like Melo? like Edwards? prob like Faried will be? We know we can actually utilize his services for the rest of this season... vs the unknown Nunnalies of the world... if this kid is 'nothing special' - as his detractors are claiming... fine, convert him, let's utilize him this year while we're shorthanded - and then let him walk after the season... no sweat... but if we're gonna continue to be more shorthanded then we need to be... because Morey wants to hold out for a longer contract.... then evidently he's more valuable than his detractors are claiming... you cant have it both ways... either Morey is justified by playing hardball bc he's a talent we wont be able to afford during the off season and have to gamble to try to tie him up long term now - or he aint nothing special and therefor no loss after the season...
House is just as likely to turn into a pumpkin. I don’t blame Morey at all for hedging. The idea that house is now a lock to be a good player is ridiculous
Morey isn't failing to honor the contract by trying to negotiate for more years. I agree with your core point, but Morey can try to get more years. House doesn't have to agree.
You're killin' me, BigDum. Just because you bold the text doesn't make your statement bold. Hahaha. Keep 'em coming, comedy guy. So happy to see you rounded up some sauces!
But if we are trying to win this year -- and think that House can help increase our chances of winning -- why stand on this "principle." (And we must think he can help if we want to lock him up for three years.) We bring in players for one year (or less) all the time and try to use them to benefit the team. See 10 day contracts for example. Why do we care if House is going to try and use this opp'y to make more money with a different team next year if he can help us win this year.
Let’s be real for a minute... The odds the rockets are going to win a title this year are way too low to throw away future seasons. As much as it pains me to say it, we aren’t even a favorite to get back to the wcf
But we are trying to win. I'm at a loss to understand how we are throwing away future seasons by just converting House now (if he doesn't cave and agree to a longer term) and use him for this season. Unless one or both budge, the choice is: a) convert House and use him this year while he is playing his heart out to get as big a contract as possible; or b) don't convert him and don't get the benefit of his services (that we clearly want or we wouldn't be trying to lock him up for future years.) Either way, it doesn't hurt future years. What am I missing?
We have no say in the matter whether he becomes free agent this summer. So, this "future" reasons talk is strictly about whether Morey wants to set a precedent for future 2-way players, by converting. Unless, of course, you are saying we should keep him stashed, and not put him on the playoff roster, in an attempt to depress his market value this summer. So, are you saying we should employ the opposite strategy of "Showcasing", whatever we call the opposite of that -- something like what possessive boyfriends do with their hot girlfriends, to keep them from getting better offers on the open market.
I know this isn't what you mean, but if you take your stated principle to its logical extreme, we are back at "rest Harden and tank this year." While some have said this (and started a thread over it), I think the reality is that the team is trying to win, and that the vast, vast majority of the fans want the team to try and win. So, the simple question is: does the team think House could help this season? If so, (unless this is just a bluff to get House to agree to something more team friendly), drop this principle stuff and convert him. (As an aside, not a huge fan of DM's assertion that they don't want to start a precedent of the Rockets being used with respect to these 2 way contracts. We are happy to use a player to help us and then dump them (if we can) when we decide they are no longer useful. This is no place or time to stand on some pretty silly principle.)
Converting him to a 1season minimum is not a provision of a 2way deal, what are you talking about? It's a option that the team convert it they want, you make it sound as if it's a gurantee. Why do people make stuff up to fit anarrative?
We are discussing if they don't. If they don't, you make it sound like they have Morey up against the wall, and he can't convert because -- how'd you say -- he'd be "throwing away future seasons." Explain how a convert is throwing away future seasons, if House is content with becoming a free agent.
Its a pecking order no doubt but house fits and his skill sets maximized on this team better than any others plus hes from H-town
Then convert his contract to a guaranteed deal only for the rest of the season, and if he turns into a pumpkin, don’t resign him. Considering House’s small sample size and limited NBA profile to date, evaluating his play for the remainder of the season would make the most sense for all parties involved.
