Well, 2-ways don't count towards tax. So, when you convert, that salary will count. But who cares, in the sense that someone is going to fill that roster spot, and minimum is the best. As for using the MLE, sure. But, again, we'd hope Tilman isn't telling Morey not to use the MLE on buyouts, either. If we believe that Morey has the green light to use all of this year's MLE, then waiting to use it can save some tax, while keeping House stashed until further in the season...but that's penny-pitching stuff, imo. In my first post in this thread, I suggested Morey is waiting to convert House until after the buyout market determines how much MLE to use on other FAs. The guess is that he'll spend MLE on other FAs, before giving to House, and if not enough is left for House to accept, convert him to make him playoff eligible, later in the year. Just to put numbers to House's Non Bird amount: we can pay him $2m/yr without dipping into the summer MLE. And as RFA, that means we outbid any vet minimum offers. And if he gets more than that, then we lose him, and blame Morey for miscalculating on his market value wrt he should have just given him part of this year's MLE, if he wanted to keep him. In the meantime, if we aren't going to give him enough MLE for this year, then convert him now, and get him back on the team.
Thanks , Waiting until after the buyout market clears is a gamble . But then again Morey is more informed than I am . So far , it has cost us . Having house would have helped tonight . This is assuming house is amenable to an offer that uses MLE . He may really want to be a FA (that's unlikely because we can kill his value by not playing him ... his bargaining position isn't THAT strong ... counterpoint, that was before EG got hurt again tonight ) I'm surprised we haven't yet offered a 2 year guarantee plus a PO for year 3. He won't make as much money as an MLE dipped deal , but he gets to FA a year sooner .
there's no way Morey would give House a PO... player options are not in Morey's DNA... Iirc that was the reason we let Dragic walk - and obviously Dragic was a much higher caliber player than House is...
let sign house with 1 year contract and let him go. I think we can get champion this year as harden is top fit this year. and auaally
They'll do that as a last resort I'm sure, but your idea is kinda giving up on a negotiation at the first rebuttal. This option will still be there 2 months from now, we aren't gonna go that route in January, before we even know what we are doing with our MLE yet.
What really bothers me about the House fiasco is it seems the Rockets FO waited till the last minute to try to get a deal done. Whatever happened to being proactive? Negotiations should've started weeks ago. It's just a really bad look for Morey. The optics look even worse when you consider that Harden and the depleted Rockets are trying their best to pull out wins despite continuing to lose players to injury. For them to lose another starter because the GM didn't do his job? That's rough.
How do buyouts work? If we Buyout marquiss chriss, can we can we then use that money to resign House?
They've been negotiating. I'm not sure what you want Morey to do here. The player's agent was upfront about the issue. They want to be converted to a 1 year deal so he can be a free agent. There isn't much else to negotiate.
Chriss doesn't even care about basketball. When he is in the game it's painful. No way he'd give up money to be bought out because no one is ever giving him a real contract again.
how does this even make sense you to? Negotiations should've started weeks ago according to you right. House has played 25 games with the rockets, which still is absolutely a small sample size. He still hasn't even played enough games to qualify for an entire nba regular season alone. But apparently weeks ago, putting him at what maybe 15 games is enough to warrant a guarantee contract for someone scraping to stay in the league.
Nope, and it's not happening anyway like others said, Chriss expiring contract is actually more usefull than him as a player so, it's worth to keep his dead body on the team, at least until the trade deadline.
I think Morey is going wait until the last min to convert House contract, just to save as much tax money as possible
right. Morey's position appears to be, "If you want a contract now, you have to give us something in return, ie. multi-years. Otherwise, we'll recall you on 3/24 under your non-taxed 2-way contract, and convert you to a taxable contract on last day of the season, to make you playoff eligible." So, in the meantime, score more and play more minutes, Harden.
I don’t trust Tillman to give Morey all the tools at his disposal to improve the team. It’s a damn shame that we’re playing these cute games while we’re still at risk of falling out of the playoffs. House has been critical in our recent run and it’s Morey’s hubris that makes him think he can find a replacement off the scrap heap. Maybe he can, but why take that risk when our depth is so shoddy and playoffs are far from a lock. The optimist in me hopes that we use the MLE and vet min for a buyout candidate and our starting SF House. But for a team in championship contention, I shouldn’t be hoping for these things - they should be sure things! Ugh this year has given me an aneurysm. Thank god Harden has found a way to bring us back from the abyss
I could see this happening. Does House see the floor in the playoffs in this scenario? I was hoping he would play all season gaining our coach's and his own confidence but a 2 month hiatus throws a big kink in there.
