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D'Antoni shorter rotation vs Spurs historically in NBA Playoffs

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by _RTM_, May 9, 2017.

  1. Madano

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    Well yes, with Dekker you only get enough letters to spell " e".
    With Capela you can at least spell " a e"
     
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  2. DavidRocket

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    well played smart alec
     
  3. Newlin

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    I disagree with a seven man rotation. We used both Dekker and Harrell during the regular season, and I thought they performed fine at the end of the rotation. When Capela was injured I thought Harrell filled in adequately. Harrell is not a good defender in the paint, but how much worse can he be than Anderson? Furthermore, I remember some games where Harden and Harrell were really clicking on offense.
     
  4. DavidRocket

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    This is where I don't care much for "playing it safe" and sticking with comfort food. Take risks and play guys you've played in the regular season...in some ways.....roll the dice and see what happens. Playing game 5 "not to lose" is not the way to go about it. Fatigue is real and is no good.
     
  5. DreamShook

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    I think MDA should start Anderson normally but sub in Gordon in for Anderson when he comes in off the bench.
     
  6. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    I don't like this. Gasol and Aldridge are just going to shoot over Harden, and Harden might get into foul trouble trying to fight them. I'm also worried that neither Beverley nor Gordon will spend a lot of time guarding Mills.

    I'm a fan of having Harden guard bigger forwards, but this is a unique situation where they have 2 7-footers who can shoot. Would rather just replace Nene with Harrell/Dekker as we've always done. Heck, if Anderson is going to the bench, give me Dekker at the 4 - he is at least harder to beat in transition than Ariza.
     
  7. DavidRocket

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    Only thing is if the Rockets can get their 3s to fall early on....then the "trade 3 for 2" scenario would play out in the Rockets' favor.
     
  8. bigred77

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    I can't remember who I saw post this on twitter (I think it was Matt Moore) but the Spurs averaging something like 0.8 points per possession when they post up Harden. I'm positive the rockets would take that all day.
     
  9. DavidRocket

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    Harden's almost as strong as Chuck Hayes in the post defense, but the issue is their turnaround long jumpers. Even when Harden holds his ground, they can just turn and fade away and hit the jumper. But again, this is a gamble I'm willing to take because neither Gasol/Aldridge have shown they can beast on jumpers throughout the game this series.
     
  10. davidxhz

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    i don't like the idea of a shorter rotation less than 7 people, we need more fresh blood, can't be running the starters into ground, we play a style which requires lots of running and stamina, unless these guys are all in great conditions, this will only hurt us than helping us
     
  11. Mathloom

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    I'm sure that with a good sample, the Spurs will average well over 0.8ppp for specifically Gasol and Aldridge being guarded by Harden. In fact, they punished us on that matchup in game 4. It also gives us less of a chance to rebound the miss. Just think about it objectively. The Spurs won 60+ games and finished 2nd in the NBA playing big against (on average) better defense than us (18th in defense).

    Look, I don't have a problem with tactical mismatches. Maybe you take a risk on that if you feel you can burn one of the bigs repeatedly on the other side of the ball. But Ariza is the one who will be matched up with Aldridge, and Ariza is not quick or fast enough to take advantage. What we are hoping for is that Ariza will set the pick for Harden, leaving Aldridge guarding Harden, Kawhi on Gordon, Green on Ariza and Gasol still defending the interior.

    Anyways, I'll put my faith in MDA. Dude is a tactical wizard. But I just don't have a good feeling about this. My gut tells me we are not as good as MDA thinks with Ariza at the 4, even though he seems to lean on that line-up whenever he can. I need to look into the actual data though.
     
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    Yeah, I'm not surprised the rotation has been tightened up, but Harrell being completely blacklisted is a little strange. He does have a reputation for sub par defense, but his actual defensive rating of 110 is merely middle of the pack on this team. On the other hand, his offensive rating of 129 is not only by far the best on the team, but also one of the best in the entire league. He also has the 5th highest true shooting percentage in the NBA, and the highest of any player whose team is still playing. The guy can contribute.

    No, he can't space the floor, but he does bring a raw energy and tenacity that could cause problems for the aging Spurs bigs.
     
  13. Mr. Dominant

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    I don't give a ****. 7 man rotation is ****. It's common sense if you have more fresh and rested bodies it results to better play and most importantly faster and more positive fast breaks. Dantoni going to injure one of our guys and then we'll have nothing for game 6 to finish off the Spurs.

    And don't even get me started with the Warriors...

    Ugh.
     
  14. DavidRocket

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    Yep, I don't care how much of a tactical wizard MDA is, if he runs our guys to the ground because of stubbornness to take a "risk" in playing some fresher legs.....it's on him.
     
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    Happy with the first half effort ..

    But agree with other that I am very scared of tired legs hurting us late in the game .

    I hope Mike knows what he's doing , but I would've given Dekker a stint ... And would still give him a stint coming up.
     
  16. Mr. Dominant

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    Seriously I'm hot headed. **** this Pringles lookin piece of chip. I'm so pissed. Who the **** does a 7 man rotation in a god damn playoff game!? We could have won this game if A, we played others, and B, if Pringles wasn't so salty about telling Harden to ****ing be a man in OT and C, if the refs could just do their ****ing job. **** man, I'm losing it at work today.
     
  17. JayZ750

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    Even if you're going to go with a 7 man rotation, why screw up that rotation by changing the starting lineup?

    Lou Williams and Eric Gordon a combined 1-11 from three. Hmmm... think the random change to the starting lineup had anything to do with that?
     
  18. heypartner

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    I don't think you really mean to call it "random", unless you weren't paying attention to game 4 adjustments and GARM threads afterwards.

    Maybe you can MMQuarterback the decision, but in fairness to Coach, it wasn't random.

    that change doesn't happen if it weren't already so successful in the second half of the very previous game. I mean, that lineup change was first done in response to Nene's injury and created the Game 4 blowout and was arguably a genius half-time adjustment. Certainly had Pops done it we'd call it such.

    Why was that random when even fans were asking for MDA to do it again, and Feigen tweeted "as expected, Gordon to start."
     
  19. JayZ750

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    Yeah random is the wrong word. My bad.

    But it isn't hindsight glasses for me. I was upset about it yesterday ore game and posted as much on here.

    I think there's a difference between an in game adjustment where flow is in place... and moving Gordon to the starter where he's already struggled from a flow and rhythm perspective.
     
  20. Hakeemtheking

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    Give this man a medal!
     

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