i was actually going to ask if #whinybitch had been taken on twitter yet because dan gilbert needs to get it. feel free to move on from the decision at any point fella. although to some degree i'm almost starting to appreciate the degree to which he doesn't seem to care if anyone thinks he's a whiny b**** because he lets it shine through in almost every communication he has. oh no, the lakers might give up 2/3 of the vaunted frontcourt size (and an even bigger chunk of the frontcourt passing and versatility) that made them contenders and possibly remove themselves from dwight contention (although it's the lakers so bynum plus crap might still somehow land them dwight) and they get a superstar point guard back? oh no, it's a traveshamockery!
Gilbert's point is why the hell does LA save so much money, and net the best player in this trade? It's outrageous. Houston is giving a top 10 scorer in this league (ahead of Dirk), a very similar player to LA's best player in this deal (who is $10 million cheaper each season), the best backup PG in the NBA, and a first round pick. Why are the Rockets getting the second best player involved in this deal? Because CP3 made a list of where he would like to play? No. Do us a favor and put an end to this now. When do the Rockets end up with a Chris Paul? If all we get is declining superstars in this new NBA then what's the point for smaller market teams? Are they just a draft farm for big markets teams? If things can change, now is the best time. Next up for bid is D12.
JaredDudley619 Jared Dudley RT @jrich23: Once again Buck Nasty a.k.a Dan Gilbert is letting his wrath being felt by being the main voice in the CP trade block.
Gilbert just hurt his own team. Now many players are gonna hate him even more, as well as some team execs. Maybe even his own team's guys will hate him.
Anthony Parker supposedly was a hardliner who wanted more player control and he was their player rep. I guess he aint re-signing with the Cavs.
Chris Paul is perfectly willing to play out his contract in New Orleans. He just isn't signing an extension onto his current contract. The Hornets want to get something back for him before he becomes a FA. Other teams do not want to trade for him unless he is willing to sign an extension. Paul is only willing to sign an extension in a few places, the same as he would only be willing to sign in certain places if he was a FA. What's wrong with that? This "players running the league" situation largely comes from teams being annoyed that players are willing to sacrifice money to become exercise their free agency rights rather than just extending with them for the rest of their usable careers. Three teams saw a way to work this situation to all get something they wanted and- Man, why am I dong this still? Screw this, I got work in the morn. I'm going to sleep. See you guys tomorrow.
Um, Dan Gilbert should be able to send Stern a simple email like that without all of us reading it. It probably wasn't the only flipping communication to Stern on this trade. LOL. He's a patsy in this whole thing. Forget Gilbert. If you want to b**** about this block (not sure why you'd want to complain about a block of the Rockets ruining themselves, but...), then you need to b**** about how the new CBA didn't make the league more functional at all. Major fail.
Really? You think that with the players we have right now we can contend? Getting Pau may have definitely been a negative thing, with him not wanting to play over here but it would have given us room to sign more players NEXT off season. We AREN'T going anywhere with the current core we have so why don't we try to do something that either blows up in our face OR that gives us future LEVERAGE elsewhere? If we sucked next season we would have been able to keep our draft pick (lottery protected) AND we would have been able to trade off Pau (because of reports that he wasn't too thrilled about a trade here). We would get MORE from a trade that has Pau as the center piece and not Martin/Scola. We aren't going anywhere fast and this would have given us more options for next season, yea we give up an elite SG (ONLY IN TERMS OF SCORING) who does NOTHING for us on the defensive end and a legit starting PF. This just clearly points out that the Stern controls the league and I hope the trade with the Nets/Magic happen. All the owners want to compete but not everyone's willing to pay. Its funny how Dan Gilbert can say its unfair to the everyone else but look how his franchise turned out, he has two lottery picks and he's going to be able to dump Davis off his team (still has to pay him but they can definitely sign another free agent). Fair my A$$.
Its called business Thats why the whole league owning a franchise is bulls***. Some a**hole is always gonna believe any front office move puts them at a disadvantage. You had three teams all believing they had a legitmate deal done and that they were doing whats best for their respective teams. Now this douche gets involved and messes everything up This is what happens you have a team in a city it has no f***'n business being in.
Exactly. Apparently someone had a vendetta against Gilbert and decided to leak his letter. You know there were probably 28 other owners with letters floating around that didn't get published. Cuban for sure was doing his share of barking. This deal doesn't get blocked unless there was an overwhelming majority of owners who complained. The NBA is going to have problems if one of the franchises is owned by the League...it's an unhealthy situation. With that said I don't see the purpose of this recent lockout if we are still going to have these kinds of problems.
You are crazy if you think Stern made this decision based on a Dan Gilbert email. Mark Cuban was against this trade too and I'm sure plenty of other owners in the league felt the same way just like Gilbert's email said.
Why should NBA players dictate where they play and how much they make? They have too much power. It screws over teams like Toronto, Cleveland, and Houston. If they want to play for a certain team then they should be willing to take a salary reduction.
I dont understand why owners from other teams should have ANY say in this! Im struggling to get throw junior college and I think I could run things better than these jackass'
They have a say because they own the Hornets too and they were taking on an extra $15MM in salaries with the deal.
Exactly. Forget about basketball - this was the Lakers getting the best player in the deal AND dumping a load of salary on everyone else, literally. They'd get to put Chris Paul in front of their Hollywood cameras and make even more money, while everyone else gets their crap, compounded by the fact that the Hornets become a wasteland of a team with no star power and decimated market value. It's all about the money, and like others have mentioned, this whole crapbasket is starting to turn into David Stern's Waterloo.
Was this e-mail "leaked" or did Gilbert deliberately put it out for everyone to see? This is fantastic.
Some team is gonna have to be brave enough (or stupid enough, depending on your opinion) to call a player's bluff and just let him walk. If dude wants to get to LA bad enough to sacrifice that much money, then so be it. Activate tank mode and rebuild with his butt still on the roster.
Most of you are deluded if you think Dan Gilbert is in the wrong here. He made very valid points. The Lakers come out smelling like roses in this deal. The owners should have the concern for competitive balance. Then we cry about how no one wants to come to Houston but we won't support someone who is directly arguing to keep things balanced. Never witnessed so much outcry about a trade being blocked for a 31 year old who can't be a number 1 player. He can't lead a team. Ask the Grizzlies how many playoff series did they win with him?
The league put a GM in charge, and told every team he had the power to make deals. The only restriction he had was he could not put the team in luxury tax. They specifically said he could trade CP and knew he intended on it. They let him work on a trade for a few weeks, then when he traded him they said oops, we don't like that one.