Dampier to report to Rockets! [UPDATE: JT's agent says Houston-Dampier not happening]

I certainly hope so, as I don't like what I'm seeing so far and a "larger deal" may be a forlorn hope, but that remains your opinion. I don't think it's that "simple."

 

Is it possible that we have had this "understanding in principle" with Dampier for a while and that Dampier had just been waiting for the Rockets to make "that deal" that frees up the roster spot...and that it was not intended by the Rockets to have this info leak out in order to not damage their bargaining position, but that Dampier's side got impatient and forced the issue by putting this info out there?

 

They have no chemistry, and don't you think they are still a little uneasy about the roster and a possible future trade?

Morey is good in trades, but as a people person regarding those players, I don't think he instills any confidence, especially with his "No extensions, no exceptions" stance.

I think the Spurs are better in their approach with Tony Parker and Manu....if the Rox planned on keeping Yao and AB, they should have extended them, IMO.

DD

 

You see, I disagree about that. Not extending Yao yet is a no brainer, since we still have no idea how he's going to hold up, and not extending Brooks makes him a more attractive asset in a possible trade. We still retain him as a restricted free agent, right? And I don't buy the whole "psychology" angle.

Totally agree that the team as is does not seem to mix well.

 

Deckard,

You don't think the players are a bit worried that Horse Trade DM will ship any of them out?

Even Scola commented on that last season.

I think it plays on their minds, and they see others around the league in their position getting extended......

People feel appreciated for their efforts or they don't....I doubt the way Morey handles contracts fosters a loyal atmosphere.....

It does fosters an "All I can get for myself" atmosphere though.

DD

 

Don't cut Ish!!! Cut Battier, he's useless!!!!!!

 

Yes, of course it affects them. I commented on that possibility of being traded (more than the contract situation) affecting Scola at the time. You could look it up. That, however, was at the deadline. AB isn't at the deadline. I think there is a big difference. If anything, I think it would bug the hell out of him to think about Lowry's contract, but he's a professional. He should act like one. For all we know, he is, and the struggles he's having right now are simply basketball related, and unrelated to "no contract/possibly being moved."

 

DD, I think you are losing it.

First you bashed T-Mac, then Ariza and now you are turning your attention towards Morey and Adelman?

 

1st, Ariza sucked.

2nd, Tmac sucked.

3rd, there are lots of problems with the Rox.....right now....and we are discussing them all....

4th, How does a guy who just joined in October 2010, know anything about Tmac and Ariza?

5th, what was your former name since you are clearly someone who was banned before.....

DD

 

LOL, it's like asking how you know anything about Ralph Sampson or Hakeem Olajuwon since you clearly joined in 99.

 

DD is right about Morey and the players. The one downside to Morey is the players, especially those on rookie deals, all know they are trade bait. They don't feel the loyalty of the organization behind them because they know Morey is always looking to upgrade their position.

On the flipside (the side I like), this means players have to always be working to get better and produce, or they know they will be replaced........because this isn't some two-bit half-a..ed organization.

 

Yeah, but what you said you knew about was what "I SAID" about Tmac and Ariza, big difference......when you just joined....allegedly.

Come on...who were you? Brian Chapman? We can just ask the mods to look it up in the IP logs.....

DD

 

I read the thread about the "Official T-Mac/Pistons" and "3-0 Hornets" thread and you bashed Ariza and T-Mac.

 

Yeah yeah, sure you did.....



DD

 

Manu Ginobili's conract was set to expire at the end of last season. He performed great last year. A contract extension was reached in April 2010.

So, there's at least one person who can somehow manage to perform on an expiring contract. There must be at least a few others. Let me dig around a bit. I think that hairy PF and the chubby PG on the Rockets did pretty well on expiring deals last season.

 

No doubt, but don't you think the Rox could have locked them up earlier for a little bit less a year?

DD

 

No one could have (reasonably) guessed that RESTRICTED free agents would be getting the offers that ended up flying around last summer.

Look at how desperate Cleveland was after losing Lebron. If Lebron stays in Cleveland (which most rationale people thought was the singlemost likely scenario), no way Lowry gets offered that much.

Scola obviously went into beast mode down the stretch last year. Without New Jersey striking out on so many free agents, I'm not so sure that Scola gets quite as much as he got. (And, by the way, I don't buy the whole "I'm going to go back to playing in Spain" thing. NO WAY they offer half what the Rockets were willing to pay before New Jersey stepped in.)

 

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Change in Team Outlook: +8.9 ppg, -5.5 rpg, and -2.4 apg.

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Carmelo Anthony
6-8 SF from Syracuse
23.7 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 3.0 apg in 37.2 minutes
Chauncey Billups
6-3 PG from Colorado
15.7 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 5.3 apg in 32.2 minutes
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7-6 C from China (Foreign)
11.5 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 1.0 apg in 22.9 minutes
Shane Battier
6-8 SF from Duke
3.7 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 2.7 apg in 27.9 minutes
Aaron Brooks
5-11 PG from Oregon
15.3 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 7.0 apg in 34.5 minutes
Jermaine Taylor
6-4 SG from Central Florida
No games yet played in 2010-2011

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Change in Team Outlook: -8.9 ppg, +5.5 rpg, and +2.4 apg.

Incoming Players
Ming Yao
7-6 C from China (Foreign)
11.5 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 1.0 apg in 22.9 minutes
Shane Battier
6-8 SF from Duke
3.7 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 2.7 apg in 27.9 minutes
Aaron Brooks
5-11 PG from Oregon
15.3 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 7.0 apg in 34.5 minutes
Jermaine Taylor
6-4 SG from Central Florida
No games yet played in 2010-2011
Outgoing Players
Carmelo Anthony
6-8 SF from Syracuse
23.7 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 3.0 apg in 37.2 minutes
Chauncey Billups
6-3 PG from Colorado
15.7 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 5.3 apg in 32.2 minutes

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13 teams are interested in Taylor? Wait, I thought DD said he was trash!

 

Uh, yes we could and a lot of us did exactly that....I was saying it was a mistake last year and that all of those teams with cap room that lost out on the big guys were going to drive the marketplace up.

If I can see that, surely Morey could.

True, and that is the risk you run, why not lock him up at a reasonable rate to avoid that risk?

Agree again, but he falls into the 2nd tier of players after missing out on the big guys I was talking about.

Morey lost on both of these moves last year, he had to pay significantly more money for both of them for the same production he could be paying less for if he struck a reasonable deal before the season.

Now, he has the same situation with Yao and Brooks.

So far....Morey's way is 1-2.....He won on the Landry deal and lost money on the Scola and Lowry deals.

I said he has a lot of work to do, and will not get a chance in Houston so it would be better if the team moved him.

I did not say trash, I said he was one of those in between players, too good for the D-league and not good enough to play in the pros.....

Whether he has the mental capabilities to reach the next level remains to be seen....with Jermaine it is all above the shoulders that will determine whether he can play or not, he has the athleticism.....but is he smart enough?

DD