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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jeremyang2002, Nov 20, 2003.

  1. crash5179

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    1. It's easy to make someone look foolish when the refs allow you to whack them in the face, whack their fore arm and use both hands to push them out of the block with arms extended. Even the GS anouncers noted that there were some missed calls against Dampier.

    2. Dampier got worked over pretty damn good in the 4th quarter when the game was on the line.
     
  2. Rockets2K

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    and in the end, isnt that all that is really important folks??

    regardless of how Yao played against anyone else, the fact that he came thru in the end and made his shots and helped secure the game is all I really care about.
     
  3. haven

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    My only problem with his statements is that he seemed to attribute some of Yao's success to a lucky break... when he, of course, didn't mention that without the good luck of very, very lax officiating, he would never have had any success defensively, in all probability.

    If you're going to play the "luck" card, you'd better damn well be even with it. Otherwise you not only look like making excuses, but being a hypocrite as well.
     
  4. win2k

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    ha...

    So Ym has a new name "not shaq"
     
  5. MadMax

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    but he's a postman and he's 7'6"...he better have the best FG percentage on the team. apples to oranges if you're comparing his FG percentage to that of a SG.
     
  6. pgabriel

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    Yes, we should give Cato the ball every time.
     
  7. ragingFire

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    Not when he shoots 38%!! :)
     
  8. Rivaldo2181

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    Man, if Dampier played Shaq like that he would have fouled out in the first quarter. He had both arms extended on Yao's back. He pushed & grabbed Yao all game long and got away with it.
     
  9. haven

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    Ok, fine, we can do that if it makes you happy (though, assuming that it's not a function of fewer attempts, this argument isn't an indictment of Yao, but of the advantages of emphasizing the C position over the SG position, but I won't go into that right now...).

    Yao is currently 26th in the league in FG %, overall. He's tied for 7th among centers (including Nowitski and Duncan). Two of the players listed above him get the majority of their points through "garbage buckets," not through regular offense. So the players who truly do seem to shoot a better % for the position? Duncan, Shaq, and Divac. Not bad. If you want to call Nowitski a C, he's a whole .07% more accurate than Yao.

    Now, let's look at SG. Mobley is 14th on that list. Taking away players who aren't really featured players, Mobley gets all the way up to 11th.

    So, shocker of all shockers... Yao is a more efficient offensive player as a center than Mobley is as an SG.

    And, of course, that's not even addressing the fact that the D is more likely to collapse and double team Yao than it is try to double team Mobley on the perimeter.

    The only advantage Mobley has is his adjusted FG%. That's .514, which brings him all the way up to 5th on the SG list (pretty remarkable, actually, for him). Of course, that's a very significant deviation from his lifetime 3pt%. And very likely partially a result of Yao's play inside.

    Anyway, I just don't see how anybody can criticize Yao for his FG %, vis a vis the rest of the team.
     
  10. themocitydon

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    im tired of hearing negative post game comments by the other team. people just need to give yao and the rockets their props instead of biotching
     
  11. fanwq

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    exactly!
     
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    i think , sometimes, people just has very high expectations. they would see 60% from Yao is ok, 70% is good, 75% is great. So....50% is really nothing, I guess :D :D

    Personally, I will be very happy if Yao can finish 55% this year. he isn't really unstoppable now, althout the Chinese media said Yao wins Ewing every time in practice and Ewing told Yao that no one in the league can stop him if play one on one .
     
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    I think Yao's new name should be "Diet Shaq"

    Boki could be "Baby Peja."

    Francis could be "A.D.D. Jordan."

    Cato could be "Freeze-Dried Garnett"

    Cat could be "Payton--additives not included"
     
  14. Fegwu

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    I don't really see anything wrong with what Mr. Dampier said because he is right - Yao is not as physically strong and dominating as Shaq - QED.

    Here is hoping that Yao develops to be a an absolute 'monster' in months and years to come. But I don't mind him receiving single coverage though ;)
     
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    Until Yao starts scoring with strong, overpowering moves such as drop steps and jump hooks, I wouldn't double him either.

    Hakeem was not being doubled because he could hit a turnaround baseline jumper.

    fadeaways to the middle and to the baseline is low %. Even for a guy who's 7'5 1/4" with touch.
     
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    Oh come on, don't stir things up, would you? It has nothing to do with Yao Only fans or Rox Only fans. I hate it when people do that.
     
  17. daRox

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    I love Yao's game and I'm very glad he's a Rocket, but realistically until his FG% start to rival his passing prowess, not every NBA team is going to double him.
     
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    I have a friend who is a current college ref and he was at the game with me and said Dampier should have fouled out with the grabbing and shoving that he was doing with Yao. In fact, he said he watched the New Jersey game and Philly game and could not believe how much Yao was being hard fouled with no calls.....

    He said that as a ref, you do call as a player gets aggressive, but it seems that when yao gets aggressive they call him for fouls instead...he is not sure what is happening with this, but he said eventually he is going to get the calls because the Rocks and the NBA is going to point out the lack of calls against him.
     
  19. Tom Archer

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    Personally, I take this as an incredible compliment to Yao. After all, he's in the beginning of his second year and being compared to the one of the top 5 centers of all time!! Just imagine how Yao will compare in 3 or 4 years!
     

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