if this all goes down.... good deal for portland. bad deal for dallas. why is it good for portland? they cast away the cogs that were most detrimental to them and bring in cogs that aren't as volatile. even though jamison prefers to play the 4 and not the 3, i'm pretty sure he'll fit in nicely since zach randolph will get his points all the while sheed got his. and finley is a real 2 guard. bonzi wells, while talented, isn't much of a 2 guard. why is it bad for dallas? one word: chemistry. it's not even a knock on sheed and wells. it's just that with SOOO MANY changes within the past year, how are they expected to go out and perform like the lakers? there's too many different pieces that just don't fit in the puzzle. nash/finley/dirk trio fit in well in that everyone had the green light to shoot but they trusted eachother with the ball as well. but now you got walker,sheed AND wells AND find a way to get dirk his points...it's not gonna work. if cuban makes this deal, all bets are off and i'm callin him a dumbass. i would actually like to see this deal go down. 1. to restore some kind of team that fans in portland would want to root for ever since the drexler era and 2. the implosion of the mavericks team caused by it's owner would be something fun to watch.
Makes me wonder if this deal is really going down if last night the principles of the trade for Portland and Dallas all PLAYED in their games. Usually if a trade is being worked on the players sit out in case of injury. I don't see ANY reason why Dallas should do this trade. Seems like a serious chemistry buster for Dallas. For Portland this is a great trade to get better citizens on their team. I guess the only reason Dallas would do the trade is so they can bring Wallace in to play center....but giving Finley and getting Wells is a tough one for Dallas. Finley is the heart of that team!
Well it's been denied ;p However, if that did go through, it would be huge for the Mavs on paper. Oncourt-offcourt chemistry is another story ;p But yea, it would make the Mavs much better ;O
If true, it would not make the Mavs better because you are right --F&J are better, and better fits. Mavs mistake? Casting out NVE (and ain't that a shock thinking like that?).
Wasn't Jiri Welsh traded by Dallas in that Walker deal? He was in the same deal where Dallas got AJ, and he was traded much sooner than this date. Is there some rule I'm not recognizing that makes up for this?
No freakin way dude. F&J are good in their own rights but the W's are just as good if not more talented, and they're better firts for this Mavs team.
Rasheed is a much superior defender than Jamison. Finley is a better all round player than Wells. Bonzi can't hit the three and both the W's get into trouble on the court. It's a good trade for Portland but a bad one for Dallas.
It's sort of a weird trade because all the players are good. I think Wells and Wallace are better, but it'd be marginal and could be argued both ways. It's a matter of what the teams need and how the players fit on the team. I think Jamison and Finley would fit better on the Blazers (mainly b/c of Randolph). This doesn't really address 1)Defense 2)Rebounding. Until Dallas addresses those issues, it doesn't matter how much they score, because it's half-court in the playoffs and it won't cut it. This could screw up the chemistry on Dallas, but the players are better IMO so it might help a little.
Quit possibly the most pointless trade in NBA history if it goes down for Dallas (more pointless than their prior 2 deals). Wells has shown that he CANNOT play SG. He requires the ball inside too much and is basically an undersized PF for the most part, something that Dallas has enough of. How many tweener big men does Dallas need? I like Wallace, but when you add him and Wells to an already shaky chemistry, that is a bomb waiting to explode. I also don't think that Nash and Dirk will be too pleased to see Finley go for an idiot like Wells.
The Rockets have two NBA championships, and are in first place in the Midwest Division right now, what else do you want!?
A DVD player in my seat at the toyota center Im just saying with the way the man has balls to stand up to the league and all. It just makes games fun to go to when you have the owner in the crowd with the fans
Wow. So you actually buy in (no pun intended) to Cuban's shenanigans? The guy just wants attention and hype and likes to portray himself as the "good guy". Do you like Matthew Lesko as well?
Just thought of why the Mavs might make this trade. Wallace's contract ends at the end of the season, thus clearing room for the Mavs to make a run at Kobe. Otherwise, this is a horrible trade, Wallace and Dirk's games are very similar, might be hard for them to work as a team. Also, Bonzi is a horrible outside shooter, how is he going to fit in with that Dallas offense?
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon...tories/stories/111003dnspomavslede.18f12.html Mavs say Finley is staying put Coach assures veteran team not shopping him; Donnie likes this team 09:20 PM CST on Sunday, November 9, 2003 By EDDIE SEFKO / The Dallas Morning News Don Nelson pulled Michael Finley aside on Saturday morning before the Mavericks' shootaround in San Antonio. He wanted to clear the air of some speculation that was making the rounds. "I told him we're not interested in trading him, no matter what he might be hearing," Nelson said. Less than 10 hours later, Finley was the subject of a trade rumor that had its genesis more than three months ago and was rekindled Saturday in Portland and circulated at the SBC Center in San Antonio before the Mavericks finished their win over the Spurs. Never mind that Finley's contract – worth more than $62 million over the four seasons after this one – also could make dealing the 6-7 swingman and cornerstone to the franchise's turnaround difficult, even if the Mavericks were inclined to do so. There was no validity to the report that the Mavericks were dealing Finley and Antawn Jamison to the Trail Blazers for Rasheed Wallace and Bonzi Wells. "Not one ounce of truth," Mavs president of basketball operations Donnie Nelson said. "That was completely out of the blue." The conjecture apparently was born out of conversations the Mavericks had with Portland in August, when Nick Van Exel still was with the team and the Mavericks were considering acquiring Arvydas Sabonis. This rumor clearly had mold on it. So when the rumors were stomped out, the next order of business for the Mavericks' brass was to reassure players that they should not be walking on eggshells these days. There is no revolving door at the entrance to the Mavericks' locker room. "To shake this thing up again wouldn't be the right thing to do," Donnie Nelson said. "Barring a no-brainer – and those just don't come along very often – the last thing we need right now is more change. We love the guys we have. "Yes, we're vulnerable right now because we haven't developed chemistry yet. But we sit down with our guys and make sure they are all on the same page. And everybody likes where this team is headed. Everybody in the locker room likes the teammates they're sitting next to." But after two major trades in the span of two months that seriously altered the look of the team, it would be human nature if players wondered who would be next to be packing their bags. As Jamison said while dressing into a neatly tailored bronze suit after Saturday's game: "It's business," he said. "You gotta do what you gotta do." The problem the Mavericks have to avoid is allowing the looming specter of another trade – real or imagined – to infiltrate their thoughts. Any player can be traded. And the Mavericks obviously are not afraid to pull the trigger. But just because there were two rapid-fire trades and they still are in the market for a quality big man doesn't mean something is always in the works. Two of the team captains, Dirk Nowitzki and Steve Nash, said they have not noticed the situation causing problems in the locker room. Nash, however, said he could understand how the issue might arise. "I haven't seen any evidence of problems yet," he said. "Whether there are some guys who might wonder about it, I'm sure that's a possibility. But it hasn't been an issue with the team yet." Said Nowitzki: "I think our problems have all been on the court so far, trying to get used to each other. I haven't heard anything about guys being worried about trades." Owner Mark Cuban and Donnie Nelson have added two talented, versatile players to the squad in Jamison and Antoine Walker without disturbing the Big Three of Nash, Finley and Nowitzki. That has created a situation where the Mavericks have elite-level players both in the starting lineup and coming off the bench. Right now, rather than concerns about future player movement, the bigger worry is learning to fit all the pieces together. As Donnie Nelson said: "If we had come off this road trip 2-1 instead of 1-2, we probably wouldn't even be having this conversation. But that's the way basketball is. Right now, our only concern is to focus on everybody trying to bring whatever they can to the table." And for now, that requires players to believe that their future is with the Mavericks. E-mail esefko@dallasnews.com
Mavs can't make a run @ Kobe because they have $84.6m in salaries already committed for 2004-05. Less Wallace and Well's $24m, they are still over the cap by ~$15m. In addition to that that $15m, they would have to shed an additional $13m to be competitive. In fact, the Mavs have 2/3 of their 04-05 cap tied up in 3 players...Walker - $14.6m...Nowitski - $12.5m...Abdul-Wahad - $6.8m.
