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Dallas May Make History, Not that there's anything wrong with that

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by pgabriel, Jun 12, 2007.

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  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    so now we're just arguing about words. I see, apologize for the incorrect use of the word "anaology". sheesh
     
    #61 pgabriel, Jun 12, 2007
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    Wait, does this mean you now agree with said analogy?
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    actually you're the one who said they are "equal". go back in the thread. I said show me how they're "equal" and your response was "I just did....blah blah"
     
    #63 pgabriel, Jun 12, 2007
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    No, I did not.

    Do you now agree with it or not?
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    so the same is different from equal?
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    yes I believe they are neither the same nor equal or hardly analogous, the only similarity is it is discrimination.


    the form of discrimination is different, the level of the discrimination is different, the fight is different, the opposition is different.

    a car and a train are only similar in that they're modes of transportation. that is about as analogous as I see the two issues. down to the very nature of race vs. sexual orientation. it isn't even the same ballpark
     
    #66 pgabriel, Jun 12, 2007
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    someone stealing a dollar and someone stealing a million dollars
    is the same level of theft . . .correct?

    Rocket River
     
    #67 Rocket River, Jun 12, 2007
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    *sigh*. At the time, I assumed you knew what an analogy was. You asked how are they the same, and I told you in what respects they are the same (i.e., a struggle for civil rights etc). This was not meant to imply that they were entirely the same in all respects - which is why I went out of my way to state that I was not "equating" them as perfectly "equal".

    Let's try a story:

    I don't really care who suffered more per say, both groups had it (and still have it) badly. However, the stuggle they face is the same. Both groups have faced violence, discrimination, and obstructionist laws. I understand that you might feel that I am negating the enormity of the black srtuggle and the sordid history of black discrimination in America - that was not my intent. I was simply stating they face the same struggle for social justice.
     
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    :rolleyes:

    No. But they are both theft.
     
    #69 rhadamanthus, Jun 12, 2007
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    well at least finally you understand

    I'm not kidding, my next post was gonna be "this thread is another example of people not understanding the enormity of the issue of race in this country."
     
    #70 pgabriel, Jun 12, 2007
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    the civil rights movement is not analogous to other anti discrimination movements, its the FOUNDATION for every other subsequent movement.
     
    #71 pgabriel, Jun 12, 2007
  12. MR. MEOWGI

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    Where did MLK get his ideas from?
     
    #72 MR. MEOWGI, Jun 12, 2007
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    you assume the movement started with MLK.
     
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    Maybe you should have bothered to read some of my earlier posts then instead of getting all pissed off over an accurate analogy - an analogy you have yet to acknowledge as truthful.
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I read your posts, I still think you fail to realize the enormity. btw, you initiate this by calling my posts bizarre and then insulting rocket river.
     
    #75 pgabriel, Jun 12, 2007
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    Well "who" started it? Moses?
     
    #76 MR. MEOWGI, Jun 12, 2007
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    you do know the naacp was founded before king was born. so what do you think the naacp was fighting for? you think blacks just started fighting for their rights because of MLK.
     
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    btw, you have have yet to acknowledge the analogy as truthful.

    You yourself said this is not a question of "blacks monopolizing suffering". Yet, here we are - I somehow can't comprehend the suffering because I draw a comparison between one civil rights movement and another.

    The struggle to overcome suffering, discrimination, bigotry, collectivism... is universal. Sadly, so far you have yet to understand that (at least inside this thread).
     
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    I agree
    How Many times have you heard the phrase
    "It's just like the Black Civil Rights Movement . . . "
    from legit orgs to half bake organization trying to seek Legitimacy

    It is like the Standard . . . . .

    I recall several months back the argument was the Word NAZI
    some felt by using it over and over for such things like Soup Nazi
    it lessened the power of it. . . the impact and the true understanding of the depth of the situation of Nazism

    maybe they were right. . . .
    Cause . . If we allow any and every group to say it
    then after a while . .people will think . .it wasn't so bad

    Rocket River
    "the discrimination against Pot Smokers is like the Civil rights Movement. .blah blah blah . . "
    - Random Pot Head
     
    #79 Rocket River, Jun 12, 2007
  20. MR. MEOWGI

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    No, but where did the ideas come from? Are you stating that the ideas of justice and equality were started by blacks? Blacks do not have a monopoly on these ideas.


    NAACP chair says ‘gay rights are civil rights’

    http://www.washblade.com/2005/4-8/news/localnews/naacp.cfm
     
    #80 MR. MEOWGI, Jun 12, 2007
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