Dallas May Make History, Not that there's anything wrong with that

I'll defer to Mrs. King on this one. I'm not black and I'm not gay, so I've never walked in eithers shoes.

 

How is justice against social discrimination separate issues? The issue IS social discrimination. To say they are separate issues is discrimination itself.

I have worked too long and hard against segregated public accommodations to end up segregating my moral concern. Justice is indivisible.
-MLK

 

it does sound like some of you guys are forcing pgab to take a position he doesnt want to take. it isn't like he has to agree with you on everything in order to state that gays are wrongfully discriminated against, but some of the comments do make it seem that way. I thought one of the trademarks of the social left was the lack of absolutes?

 

hotballa:

I'd argue it the other way. Pgab seems to be trying to pigeonhole my comments into meaning that "all discrimination is equal" - whereas in reality I am trying to show that the quest for civil rights is analogous between the two groups. Certainly, some discrimination is very similar, but I never tried to paint it as equitable - in fact, I vigorously denied that charge already.

The reality of what I'm saying (and what I think Meowgi is saying) is that there are parallels between the two, and that the quest for gay rights is analogous to the black rights movement of the 1960s inasmuch as they are both indicative of a minority group struggling to be treated equally.

 

hmm then why not ask him to state what the difference is, not between the groups or the desired results, but the actual movements itself, which is what I assume you're referring to.

 

Discrimination always precedes genocide.

 

Good idea! Oh wait...

 

The only differance that I can see there is magnitude.

As I already stated 800 times: I was never equating the level of suffering.

I don't think you understand what the terms "drawing a parallel" and "making an analogy" mean.

 

could it be that due to the magnitude of discrimination on blacks, that pgab sees your drawing a parallel to it is akin to Al Sharpton drawing a parallel to Nelson Mandela?

 

Yeah, they were. My great-grandfather was not allowed in restaurants, etc....

 

The general homophobia of the black community is well documented. And you're right, there is mucho irony there.

 

I know, just throwing a little anecdotal stuff out there.

 

That's what an analogy is.

 

I will not say if the discrimination against American Indians, Africans or Homosexuals, Jews etc has been worse or not. It is ridiculous. The suffering in all is immeasurable.