Dallas May Make History, Not that there's anything wrong with that

in other words, discrimination is tougher for gay people because they're more likely to get their feelings hurt since people don't know they're gay. What about blacks who got lynched or denied even a chance to apply for a job? I'm sure they wouldn't have minded getting their feelings hurt instead.

again this is exatly what RR, lil pun and pgab have been saying.

 

Present-day countries where homosexuality is still punishable by death:

* Iran
* Mauritania
* Nigeria
* Pakistan
* Saudi Arabia
* Sudan
* United Arab Emirates
* Yemen

 

is this to make some point?? is anyone here advocating putting someone to death??? is anyone here advocating even discriminating against someone?

 

I thought we were talking about the U.S.

 

I thought we were talking about discrimination.

 

Hasnt the entire conversation been on the black civil rights movement of the 60's which occurred in the U.S.?

This is the first time on this thread that anythign international has been brought up I think.

 

it was still an interesting list...i appretiated it Mr. Meowgi

 

No, but people are acting like it is a who has it worse thing.

 

As someone who gets labelled on here all the time as many things, I'd say don't worry about it. ANyone who labels you isn't truly judging you, they are trying to fit you into their world view and reaffirm themselves. That's why I'm very anti-PC.

I know what you mean about minority groups...it's not the literal definiton you are talking about. I think really it's both the literal def combined with the implied fact that there is some sort of protectionism due to past hardships or discrimination.

As for pedophiles. You can't do anything to a pedophile who hasn't commited a crime. In fact, most people consider pedophiles to be those who have commited some sort of crime rather then someone who hasn't. But if a person has an attraction for a child and never acts on it, I think it would be wrong to discriminate against them. It's when they step into the realm of exploitation of the vulnerable (through child p*rn, sexual assult, etc), that they are criminals.

I am definitely one to think that action plays the role more then what goes on in a head. That's why I don't think a murder, even if done by a mentally ill person, doesn't mean tha tperson hasn't committed a crime. They have.

A person though who is inclined to be attracted to the same sex though represents no threat to those around them. THey engage in concensual adult relationships. There is no exploitation. No crime. In fact, they are often just the opposite - productive members of society. And they are very much a mocked and tortured group on many levels.

I certainly am not above anyone in anycase. I have both been a target of discrimination and felt the odd sensation of what it is like, as well as been someone who has discriminated against others. So I know what it's like to give and receive....and in this case, both are equally bad.

 

Notice that I said "in at least one way". Your the one comparing it to lynching, not me.

 

The human condition is international.

 

lol, good show meowgi. good show, I should know to never engage you in these types of things.

 

17 states and DC have laws against discriminating against sexual orientation. There is no federal law. Many cities also have their own laws. Also, there are 500 major companies that have rules against discriminating against gays in the workplace.

Here's the lists of states:
California
Connecticut
District of Columbia
Hawaii
Illinois
Maine
Maryland
Massachusetts
Minnesota
Nevada
New Hampshire
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
Rhode Island
Vermont
Washington
Wisconsin.


Outside of these states, companies, or cities - it is legal to fire someone or deny promotion due to sexual orientation.

 

Going by the context of the thread, I thought the comparison was between the era of the 50's for blacks when the civil rights movement started and the last 10 years or so which I would guess is when the gay rights movement really picked up steam.

 

where are you getting these state names from? the NYC MTA allows pre-op transgendered folks to use either male or female bathrooms they prefer. I find it very hard to believe the accuracy of your list.

 

in the context of the American experience.

 

I also disagree on the fact that people can "hide" their sexuality. You'd have to hide your entire life from the public. You couldn't have dinner with your significant other - people will see you. Or in your personality, the way you dress, or other things that people can tell if you are gay or not (aka gaydar).

Sometimes people who are straight but APPEAR gay may be discriminated against (a woman with short hair). To say gays can hide their sexuality is a whole new form of oppression.

Imagine if heterosexuals had to hide being straight? It's not possible I think.

 

I got it from about.com

http://lesbianlife.about.com/od/lesbianactivism/f/Discrimination.htm

It's shocking isn't it? Here people are saying that Gays are fighting for a privledged lifestyle when in 33 states (including Texas) they can be fired if someone finds out they are gay.

 

ah i misread your post. i thought you listed the states where you COULD get fired for being gay.

question for you. How many companies do you really seeor hear about firing people simply because they're gay?

EDIT: at least they get a chance to apply for the job in the first place. How many blacks get rejected the minute they show their face?

discrimination at a job based on anything other than job performance is totally ridiculous. I cant believe only 17 states have this kind of law.