I'd say McCants is more fundamentally sound than Wafer but Wafer is bigger, more athletic and more aggressive taking it to the rack. I wasn't really trying to compare McCants to Wafer, just pointing out that I like McCants' game.
Well we shall see. I know Artest has been waiting to see Kobe again...whether that is good for us I don't know lol.
ueah, it's not like we have no chance against them, even though it's a road game for us. i know we often play better on national tv and that game is on espn.
There is no case to be made. Watch Paul play. Even if he does flop, he is phenomenal at taking it to the basket in traffic and finishing with contact. Compared to most other PGs, he's built like a running back. I saw him strip a ball out of Duncan's hands after a rebound tonight. How often do you see Duncan get stripped? Look how many rebounds he grabs a game and remember he's a 6' PG. Another example of toughness. It's hard to be a good rebounding guard without at least some level of toughness, especially if you're that small. He isn't afraid to mix it up with the trees. Toughness is also mental. If you can't see Paul's mental toughness, I won't waste my time presenting a case.
You think Paul is a soft flopper. I think he's an incredibly tough, competitive player who also flops as part of his game. I don't like flopping but I won't automatically say a player who is clearly tough is not tough simply because he also flops. There are players that flop who aren't tough. There are also players who flop that are absolutely tough in every respect of the word. Chris Paul is tough in every sense of the word.
If Chris Paul is so "tough", why did he disappear and stand by while Jannero Pargo took over the Hornets offense in game 7 at home last year against the Spurs? Neither Paul nor David West wanted to take any shots or handle the ball. If Pargo hadn't hit some of his shots, the game would have been a blowout even though the Spurs didn't play very well themselves. If Chris Paul were "tough", he would have risen up like a champion and at least gone down fighting. Instead, he let Pargo do the fighting while he mostly watched. It was bizarre.
Because he's not perfect? He had a bad game? I have no idea and I don't think I saw that game. But I have seen more than enough of Paul's game to have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that he is tough in every respect of the word... even if you are correct that he shrunk in that game. He's human. I know plenty of other tough superstars that have had numerous weak games. Garnett's had his share. So has Shaq. Kobe, too (remember his Game 7 a few years back where he pouted and overtly played "unselfish"?... or is Kobe soft, too?). One game doesn't make the man, especially in the case of Paul who has put his team on his shoulders so many times, including in the postseason.
You're using a very small sample size to determine he isnt tough. In fact, your sample size is ridiculously tiny. Apart from 1 of his 300 odd games, he is tough. Ill take that in a player... Brooksball is right. He is crazy tough. Every aspect of his game. Even with his flopping, he is one of my favourite players in the League.
A_3P0 is the man but I couldn't disagree with him more on this particular point. I find it absurd to question Paul's "toughness." Not only is he tough, he's easily one of the toughest players in the league when you consider both the physical and mental aspects of toughness.
I wish you had seen it. Late in the 3rd quarter and most all of the 4th, it seemed like neither team wanted to win the game. If all CP did was miss shots or turn the ball over, I'd be OK with that. Instead, he gave up the ball early and didn't even want it, like the fight was gone from him. Same for David West. The exalted leader of the Hornets completely choked under the pressure of the moment and his team followed him, except for Pargo. That isn't mental toughness. I'm not using one game as a sample size. Don't be silly. I've seen him play plenty of times. The toughness CP showed tonight was top notch, MVP level stuff. He wasn't whining to the refs and he didn't act like he got shot with a bazooka whenever he got fouled soft or hard. He didn't even flop very much. He dropped the prima donna act. But he doesn't play like this every game. Tonight, AI's heart was in CP's body. If CP played like this most games I see him, I'd put him up there with the big 3. But he doesn't. He's smart, fast, has amazing floor vision and passing ability and is one of the most uniquely talented players in the NBA. I give him props for that, but I want to see tonight's grit on a regular basis.
Hey, fair enough. No doubt I respect your opinion. Even if I wanted to agree with you though, I can't in this case. CP3 is still young. If he lacks toughness like several of you are claiming to be the case, I'll definitely notice it at some point. I haven't yet. In that Game 7, is it possible that fatigue was a factor? Not only was he carrying the team throughout most of the playoffs, the Spurs are also notorious for their defensive prowess. Maybe even a stud like Paul got worn down? From everything I've ever seen of Paul, I just can't see him not wanting the ball in crunch time... ever... unless there was some very logical explanation other than he isn't tough enough.
Actually, it's a weird game. I think the Spurs tried to dump this game in order to avoid the Jazz. It's easier for them to jokey for position in later stretch. The Spurs just played weird. Kept jacking up 3 pointers while not hitting. Then they didn't foul with 17 sec left and 1 point game. That's quite out of character for Pop and the Spurs.
