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Daiz vs. Malignaggi

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by wesnesked, Aug 23, 2009.

  1. VanityHalfBlack

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    They had tickets that cost like $150.00 for the Pacvscotto fight, but it was sold out, all that was left was the expensive ones...
     
  2. Kam

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    LOL!


    So that's what that meatball Luigi said. I sat in my seat, with a dumbfound look on my face. I had no clue what he said 95 percent of the time.

    EHHHHHHHH GO MAKE ME A PIZZA.
     
  3. King1

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    Pac/Cotto is a mega-fight. Both are huge draws with fans that are willing travel. That's not a surprise at at all.
     
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    That was freaking hilarious. I didn't see the fight cause I hate boxing for that very reason. They just need to box until somebody gets knocked out to eliminate any confusion.
     
  5. VanityHalfBlack

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    Make it go 15 rounds, bare knuckles and I doubt it'll go decision...
     
  6. da1

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    The first fight was wild. There weren't enough cops so it just kept going and going.
     
  7. Dave2000

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    i admit Paul had a good fight, but he had the boos going for him, at one point he mocked the crowd after a round, he did his Michael Jackson move to the crowd that caused some boos

    from this one fight, i think he's trash, he's like the Italian version of Mayweather, is a showboat but u got to respect his talent, he at least respected the crowd during the interview, he knew that they 5-10 seconds left in the fight, and he embraced Diaz before the bell sounded.

    he just played a good bad guy role last night.

    had some pretty good seats in sec 121 row 15, got hooked up and had a great time. the 3rd fight in the crowd was about 10 rows in front of me and was just wild. The other was too far away for me to see. In the end, it was a good time, and would love to go again if they ever have another one in town.
     
  8. Angkor Wat

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    I thought it could have gone either way. moreso a draw. Paulie had the fight in his hands. Instead of running away the whole fight and throwing jabs, he should have went for the kill. Diaz had TWO cuts, one really bad one and he never capitalized. Diaz was the aggressor, landed the better percentage and more power shots. The stats show Paulie landed only 13 more punches than Diaz, most probably being jabs.

    In the end, both guys fought a great fight. Although Juan could have performed much better. Max made a great statement after the fight when he said, "The marketability of Diaz won." Which is so true. Nobody wants to see a fighter like Paulie fight but when you got two guys like Diaz in a ring then people will flock to see it.
     
  9. King1

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    Did you just call Floyd Mayweather Jr. trash?
     
  10. Dave2000

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    naw more like comparing Malignaggi to Mayweather with the showboating, plus Mayweather doesnt have 20+ wins and only 5 freaking KOs
     
  11. King1

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    Gotcha. Floyd showboats more by embarrassing his opponents with speed and quickness (onceh e gets in the ring) while Malignaggi showboats by sticking out his toungue and dressing like one of the Village People
     
  12. Hippieloser

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    So true-- that is how you fill up arenas. De la Hoya appears very committed to promoting matches in Houston. Diaz is definitely going to get the benefit of the doubt when he is the draw. That advantage is as old a tradition as arguing over decisions.
     
  13. da1

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    My day with Paulie (he's a friend of mine)

    Shame on Houston
    By Vikram Birring, DoghouseBoxing.com

    For a man who is about to engage in the most primal form of human warfare in a few hours, Paulie Malignaggi is surprisingly relaxed as he lay on his stomach in his Hilton hotel room.

    A DVD of Floyd Mayweather’s toughest bout, against determined Jesus Chavez plays on a portable player.

    Chavez shares the same trainer as Juan “Baby Bull” Diaz, Malignaggi’s foe on this night. Paulie watches the screen intently, looking for clues on how to beat a resolute opponent.

    “Mayweather doesn’t get credit for body work,” Paulie notes as HBO unofficial judge Harold Lederman amazingly has the score even after six rounds. “Mayweather doesn’t get credit for anything he does,” chimes in brother Umberto.

    Laughs abound as George Foreman “oooohs” at a missed Chavez punch. That laughter subsides into horror as the screen gives a frightening reminder that humanity was subject to witnessing three bouts of Evander Holyfield and John Ruiz. Umberto succinctly sums it up: “worst trilogy ever!”

    Malignaggi’s cousin Petey, affectionately known as Petey Meatballs, and effectively the leader of his Malignaggi team, paces nervously, back and forth, restlessly. As his cousins laugh and joke, he can’t stand in the same spot, not nervous, he says, just concerned.

    As for the running match, ironically, after a spectacular display of brilliant defense and pinpoint counter punching, it was Mayweather who ended up as the “Matador,” making a man who walked into the ring who had no thoughts of losing quit on his stool.

    “That’s it kid, the best that ever did it.” And so ends the final study session before the big bout. Team Malignaggi leaves their fighter to rest up.

    Countdown to fight: six hours.

    Downstairs, Umberto, Petey, Paulie’s two physical therapists, and some other friends gather for a final meal. Petey still appears uneasy, refusing to eat. “I don’t eat on the day of the fight,” he explains succinctly. Umberto places his hat on the table. Petey demands he remove the hat from the table. “You superstitious Petey?” “Just take the hat off the table!” And orders are followed.

    Countdown to fight: four hours: thirty minutes.

    Malignaggi’s image appears on the big screen in Toyota Center and is quickly greeted with a smattering of boos. He smiles, appearing confident. He has a new trainer now, Sherif Younan, best known for his merciless training sessions with his son “Sugar Boy,” so intense Younan was thrown out from Gleason’s Gym. The cut man is the same as always, Danny Milano, well-respected in the boxing business.

    After an entertaining scrap between fellow Brooklynite Danny Jacobs and Ishe Smith, Robert Guerrero and Malcolm Klassen nearly put the 7,500 fans to sleep. An idle mind is a man’s worst enemy, and to prove this phrase, four brawls erupt in the audience. In one, a man leaves on a stretcher, blood dripping from a stab wound.

    Countdown to fight: ten minutes.

    The words of the late Arturo Gatti stream from the loudspeakers, but the crowd is in too hysterical to realize this.

    The rawest of emotions are few: love, anger, fear, happiness, and hate. The fans’ treatment of Paulie Malignaggi as he walk is not just hostile, but outright dislike. One gets an uneasy feeling, as he is literally walking into a lion’s den. This is just not regular booing, but outright, vicious disdain for the New Yorker. It is an ugly scene.

    Juan Diaz receives the opposite extreme, love and adoration from his hometown crowd. Among the thousands, his parents, who weeks ago watched their son graduate from university, a crowning achievement that weighs above any boxing trinket.

    The match begins.

    In round one, Malignaggi pumps the jab, circling as best he can in the eighteen by eighteen foot ring. He occasionally follows up with rights. His punches win in quantity, but unknown if they do any damage, partly because of the crowd’s complete silence to his offense, and partly because of his reputation as not being a puncher. Nonetheless, he takes the first, and looks confident, not the hesitant man who did not let the trigger go against England’s Ricky Hatton in November.

    In round two, Diaz’s aggression pays off, as he lands what appear to be devastating punches. The image of Malignaggi’s head snapping back with each blow only adds to the effect. This continues on until round five, when Malignaggi begins to box again. But in the ongoing rounds, Diaz appears to land the majority of the harder punches, or perhaps only giving the appearance since with each landed Diaz punch, the crowd explodes in cheers.

    Round ten is Malignaggi’s best three minutes of the fight, other than a surreal moment when referee Laurence Cole stops the action to pull up Malignaggi’s rapidly slipping trunks. He embarrasses Diaz, making him miss and boxing beautifully, throwing punches and circling throughout the round. He has figured out his foe, but it seems to be too little, too late. A man in press row slits his throat at Malignaggi after the round, he is quickly escorted away.

    In round twelve, Malignaggi goes for the knockout, knowing he has no chance to win on the scorecards, whether he is really winning or not. This type of action favors Diaz, and he closes the match with solid flurries. To the astonishment of the crowd, Paulie’s corner men lift their man high, to a volatile reaction. Diaz does the same, and again, receives warmth. It is like a Rocky film in real life.

    The scores are read, and they are a foregone conclusion. Diaz wins on all cards, 115-113, 116-112, and 118-110. The first two seem reasonable, but the eight point gap is inexplicable, as if it were filled out over morning breakfast. Gale Van Hoy has a reputation for bad decisions. A few hours earlier he handed local prospect Jermell Charlo a 58-56 gift against Armenian Vardan Gasparyan. He scored Jermain Taylor 117-111 against Cory Spinks in a very close affair that Spinks arguably won. He robbed Christy Martin one year ago against a local woman boxer, calling a one sided beating a draw. At his advanced age, he would be a danger to roadways if he were to get behind a wheel, yet senselessly gets judging privileges in most big Texas bouts.

    The Texas State Commission placed him to show that it has competent judges, but instead shot itself in the foot. Malignaggi warned anyone who would listen that he had no chance to win, that he was in a gunfight with an unloaded pistol, and he was right. It will be a long time before the bright lights of HBO return to Texas, and sadly to say, for good reason.

    Shame on Houston.
     
  14. MadMax

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    It was a close fight....the contender put up a good show. But he had to overwhelm Diaz to win that fight, no matter if it were in Houston or Vegas.

    the 118-110 card was stupid. but it's not as if the other guys scored it for Malignaggi and he would have won but for that. it was a unanimous decision. i watched the fight and honestly...with Diaz's name fighting an up and comer, i couldn't imagine Malignaggi winning without doing more. without at least knocking him down.

    the 118-110 was a distraction. had it been another 115-113 card, would anyone have felt like this was so underhanded?? or if it had been a split decision for diaz?? either way, diaz was gonna win that fight, barring Malignaggi doing far more than he actually did.


    as an aside...my 9 year old loves boxing. i'd love to take him to a fight...but no way i can with an atmosphere like that. that kinda sucks. have to wait to see some golden gloves matches or something, i guess.
     
  15. da1

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    You should go to the local shows, they are pretty fun and I've never seen a brawl break out. The worst thing for your kid might be the ring card girls. My friend Cameron is a promoter and he puts on shows pretty regularly, he's putting on a show September 16 at Humble Civic Center, www.rsboxing.com

    There's another one October 8 at Hilton downtown but that's a little more higher end price wise.
     
  16. bladeage

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    Apparently HBO is entertaining the possibility of a rematch. They would love for it to happen.

    I don't think Diaz will give it to him. Personally I don't think Diaz should even attempt to fight at Jr. Welterweight. He should stick to the LW division. He doesn't have the power to compete with those guys. He can barely knock out any lightweights.

    Although I wouldn't mind a fight between Diaz and Timothy Bradley. No knockdowns but that would be non-stop action!
     
  17. da1

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    The first fight did good ratings, and it was controversial, so why not do it again? Atlantic City seems neutral enough, it's not Texas and it's not New York City.
     
  18. MadMax

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    thanks for that..very cool. i have no problem with him seeing ringside girls. but not comfortable with being caught in the middle of some crappy chach fest fight.

    i'd be interested in the october 8 event. i didn't find information about that on the website you linked....any idea where i could find it?
     
  19. MadMax

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    Vegas seems even more neutral...is it big enough for Vegas??
     
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    I doubt it would be big enough for Vegas.
     

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