Dad beats 2 year old girl, leaves her to die in cold.

You don't make peace with Cancer
You cut it out.
This guy is a cancer on society
and
as someone stated these types of acts are becoming to prevelant
for my tastes

must stop Cancer from spreading

Rocket River

 

The root of this cancer lies within our own minds.

 

I am writing this from Lancaster County (not that that makes me an expert on Amish).

The Amish forgiveness is a model for us all -- but if the murderer would have lived they would have forgiven him and wanted to see justice. The Amish community does have an internal court system that mets out justice for crimes committed (sometimes harshly).

They have harsh repercussions. They will also completely ostracize anyone who leaves their faith after joining the church. Children are not aloud to contact their parents if this happens.

 

If you were born, raised and lived in the same conditions as him you might.

If we keep on killing we are responsible.

 

It does matter. Why worry about education if not? Why have religious and moral leaders? Why try to improve people's lives and raise good children?

We all have capability to do that to a child. We all have the capacity not to do it. If we really look we can recognize ourselves in him.

 

Of course it's important to raise good children. But the pendulum in the nature versus nurture debate is swinging to the side of nature .
People like these are sociopaths and there's nothing you can do to redeem them.

 

To the people who don't think he should be put to death I have a question. Should he be treated special in prison, or should he be put in general population?

 

I guess, but there is a much bigger picture than it. I wouldn't put my hopes for salvation or happiness into the law.

 

You can redeem yourself.

 

I can redeem more qualified people by using the money that will be used to keep this idiot alive in jail for 60 years.

 

D&D in

5...

4....

 

I never said to kill the man based on street justice. I said that according to the law he should be justly punished and the death penalty would be just in this case. However, how do you tell someone to prepare for the violent death of someone the love and care about? It's almost sick because there is no preparation for that. I can't fathom what kind of hell you'd have to lu=ive in to be "more prepared" for that.

One of my best friends was violently murdered by our mutual ex-boyfriend in high school and there is no way in hell I could have be prepared for that terror. To make it worse he'll be paroled in 16 years (and trust me I've been counting this since I was 17) because our flawed legal system tried him as a juvenile. I know killing him will never bring my friend back, but lethally injecting him would give me the peace of mind to sleep at night. Do you know how terrifying it is to know that in 16 years he'll be out of prison with a clean record so he can go off and murder someone else? I'd feel much better knowing that kill he can't kill anyone else. Am I angry? Hell yeah but my anger and quest for vengance has also allowed me to find legal ways to prevent such a tragedy for happening more often. But hey maybe I should have been more prepared to see my friend die in the hallway at school.

 

I understand what Mr. MEOWGI is getting at but when someone harms defenseless children I think we should look to the bible for answers...

In these cases I prefer the old testament... An eye for an eye.

 

Thanks for the backup. I thinkhe's just picking on me cuz I'm a girl.

 

How exactly do you redeem yourself after murdering a two year old child?

 

So which one is it? A condition of the mind, or a product of the environment?

Would any mind, under the same environment, do such a thing?

 

But you can't be the one to say that his conditions made him the way he is. It could well just be him...his mind...some defect..

Obviously, there are many aspects of the brain we have yet to understand. To assume that this person is the way he is because of outside influences and not because of himself is assuming way too much at this point.

Because we can't be sure, I think we need to handle this by law. If that's the death penalty, so be it.



(OTOH, I do think you're right about being able to be more prepared for things like this.)