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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    US Open champ Novak Djokovic brought to you by Moderna. LMAO
     
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    You've had three years to learn how vaccines work.
     
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    Educate us. Start with answering my question above.
     
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    You've had three years...well, many more than that. I suspect you're unwilling to digest the information.
     
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    OK, so you cannot explain how you are "killing grandma" if the vaccine works to protect her and she has taken it.

    You had 3 years to try and understand it.
     
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    You aren’t an American, you sure you’d pass a citizenship test?

    Freedom of speech isn’t absolute.
     
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    My AR15 with a 100 round magazine disagrees.
     
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    I'll say from experience the 100 mag jams too often and too heavy to use for home defense or most practical applications.

    #DemocratsPackToo
     
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    I found that after the first 6 pack one hardly notices the jams.
     
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    new report

    Fraudsters may have stolen $1 of every $7 in covid jobless aid, watchdog finds
    The Government Accountability Office says $135 billion may have been taken, underscoring how much work Washington still has left to recover stolen funds and secure convictions

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/09/12/unemployment-fraud-covid-aid-report/

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    Fraudsters may have stolen as much as $135 billion in federal unemployment aid during the coronavirus pandemic, according to a report released Tuesday by the Government Accountability Office, which found the theft encompassed roughly one out of every seven dollars set aside for jobless Americans during the public health crisis.

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    The criminals focused their efforts on states, which had struggled starting that spring to process a deluge of applications for federal unemployment aid, according to the GAO’s report on Tuesday, echoing many of the conclusions from past oversight reviews. To obtain checks they did not deserve, malicious actors often masqueraded as real people, misrepresenting themselves as Americans out of a job, people in prison and even the deceased, the watchdog found.

    In total, the U.S. government may have lost between $100 billion and $135 billion, according to the GAO estimate. That equated to about 11 to 15 percent of the roughly $900 billion spent on unemployment insurance between April 2020 and May 2023, the period during which the U.S. government declared a public health emergency. The watchdog came to its figure by sampling federal data, acknowledging that the “full extent of [unemployment] fraud during the pandemic will likely never be known with certainty.”
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    Fauci is awful. And Trump should have fired him instead of giving him a commendation. DeSantis is right about that one.
     
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    https://www.theadvocate.com/lake_ch...cle_600f2dfa-fc47-11eb-b7f6-5b2230dfae75.html
     
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    That's a description of the drug put out by the drug maker back in 2020 - not an endorsement by the Mayo Clinic. Here's what Merative & Micromedex say about their description.

    "The information contained in the Merative, Micromedex® products is intended as an educational aid only. It is not intended as medical advice for individual conditions or treatment. It is not a substitute for a medical exam, nor does it replace the need for services provided by medical professionals. Talk to your doctor or pharmacist before taking any prescription or over-the-counter drugs (including any herbal medicines or supplements) or following any treatment or regimen. Only your doctor or pharmacist can provide you with advice on what is safe and effective for you."


    This is, however, from the actual people at the Mayo Clinic (also on the same website):

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases...expert-answers/coronavirus-drugs/faq-20485627

    Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine. These malaria drugs were authorized for emergency use by the FDA during the COVID-19 pandemic. However, the FDA withdrew that authorization when data analysis showed that the drugs are not effective for treating COVID-19. They can also cause serious heart problems.





    Here's a timeline of Mayo Clinic updates and changes of HCQ over the last 3yrs:

    The Mayo Clinic article on hydroxychloroquine actually changed twice in 2020, as new evidence presented itself during the COVID-19 pandemic.

    To make it easier for you to understand, here is the timeline of the Mayo Clinic updates on hydroxychloroquine, and some significant points in the use of HCQ to treat COVID-19:

    18 March 2020 : The WHO announced that chloroquine and HCQ would be tested in the multinational Solidarity clinical trial for COVID-19 treatments using existing drugs.

    19 March 2020 : US President Donald Trump encouraged the use of chloroquine and HCQ during a national press conference, causing a massive increase in demand for both drugs in the US.

    28 March 2020 : US FDA authorised the use of chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate to treat COVID-19, under an Emergency Use Authorisation as an experimental treatment for emergency use in hospitalised patients.

    8 April 2020 : The US National Institutes of Health (NIH) began the first clinical trial to assess whether hydroxychloroquine is safe and effective to treat COVID-19.

    24 April 2020 : US FDA cautioned against using chloroquine / hydroxychloroquine outside of a hospital or clinical trial, after reports of adverse events including heart problems and deaths.

    Between 8-22 May 2020 : Mayo Clinic first updated its hydroxychloroquine article to say that it “may be used” to treat COVID-19 patients in “certain hospitalised patients”

    5 June 2020 : Hydroxychloroquine was discontinued in the UK RECOVERY Trial when a preliminary analysis of the data showed that it provided “no beneficial effect” in patients hospitalised with COVID-19.

    Between 5-13 June 2020 : Mayo Clinic updated its HCQ article to warn about the risk of heart rhythm problems while taking hydroxychloroquine. It also warned that HCQ should only be used “in a hospital or during clinical trials“.

    15 June 2020 : US FDA revoked the EUA for both chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, while allowing clinical trials for both drugs to continue.

    20 June 2020 : US NIH halted its clinical trial of hydroxychloroquine, after it showed that HCQ was “unlikely to be beneficial to hospitalised patients with COVID-19”.

    4 July 2020 : WHO discontinued the hydroxychloroquine arm of the Solidarity Trial, after HCQ produced “little or no reduction in the mortality of hospitalised COVID-19 patients“.

    24 September 2023 : Mayo Clinic article from 13 June 2020 went viral on social media after former Trump advisor, Peter Navarro posted it on X (formerly known as Twitter).

    https://www.techarp.com/science/mayo-hydroxychloroquine-covid/
     
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    yeah...white people sux :(
     

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