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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    That gay dude who works for Pfizer is real and the video does not look heavily edited to me. Keep schilling for big pharmas if that makes you feel better. Are you in the camp that we can’t argue with your science?
     
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    Are you still taking horse medicine to ward off COVID?
     
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    Lessons learned and current reality. Good article.

    Facing the New Covid-19 Reality | NEJM

    We’ve come a long way. From the early, terrifying days of a rapidly spreading deadly infection to the current circumstances in which — despite a recent steep rise in transmission rates — Covid-19 has, for many people, become no more than an occasional inconvenience, involving a few days of symptoms and a short isolation period. It’s clear that for many, if not most, people, SARS-CoV-2 infection no longer carries the same risks of adverse outcomes as it did in the early months of the pandemic. These shifts have led to a widespread assumption, fueled by political and economic priorities, that the pandemic is behind us — that it’s time to let go of caution and resume prepandemic life.

    The reality, however, would starkly contradict such a belief. Covid-19 currently results in about 300 to 500 deaths per day in the United States — equivalent to an annual mortality burden higher than that associated with a bad influenza season. In addition, many people continue to face severe short- or long-term Covid-19 illness, including people who lack access to vaccines or treatment and those with underlying conditions that impair their immune response to vaccines or render them especially vulnerable to Covid-associated complications. The ever-looming threat of the evolution of a new variant, one that can evade our vaccines and antivirals, remains very real. These facts support the assumption that SARS-CoV-2 will continue to play a major role in our lives for the foreseeable future. This new reality compels us to navigate a more complex social, economic, political, and clinical terrain and to take to heart the lessons learned from the Covid-19 response thus far — both the successes and the missteps.

    ... (successes and missteps)

    The current moment in the Covid-19 pandemic is a pivotal one. There is an urgent need to confront a future in which SARS-CoV-2 will remain with us, threatening the health and well-being of millions of people throughout the world. At the same time, it’s important to acknowledge that objectively we are in a better place with regard to the virus than we’ve ever been and that in fact many people believe the pandemic is behind us. This reality compels us to avoid using alarmist language and to offer valid and feasible solutions to bring people along to a new, nonemergency phase of the pandemic. How we craft our policies, programs, and associated messaging in this context and who delivers the messages is as important as ever.
     
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    The lesson is don’t create new viruses in labs with China
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  6. Commodore

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    All deaths were labeled Covid until further investigation. Thousands of death certificates were falsified. This has always been a scam. It is time for the return of common sense.

     
  8. FranchiseBlade

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    Nope. Totally misleading.
     
  9. AroundTheWorld

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    The statistics didn't distinguish between dying of Covid and dying with Covid (something else being the cause of death, but the person also having Covid).
     
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    Related to Bruce and Kyle?
     
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    Even though that was the first vaccine. "Inoculation" had been around for awhile and George Washington had the Continental Army inoculated against small pox.
    https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/smallpox-inoculation-revolutionary-war.htm
    Smallpox, Inoculation, and the Revolutionary War

    Boston National Historical Park

    During the 1700s, smallpox raged through the American colonies and the Continental Army. Smallpox impacted the Continental Army severely during the Revolutionary War, so much so that George Washington mandated inoculation for all Continental soldiers in 1777. Just fifty-six years earlier, in 1721, Bostonian doctors and clergy introduced the procedure to the American colonies. Without the vision and determination of these early Bostonians in normalizing inoculation, Washington may not have made the decision to mandate inoculation for the Continental Army. Though it was a controversial action, many historians credit the medical mandate with the colonists’ victory in the Revolutionary War and the creation of the United States of America.

    More at link.
     
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    yep, I think it goes back even further, but specifically for smallpox, Lady Mary Montagu first tried inoculating her son against Smallpox (after observing the procedure in Turkey) in early 1700 and then advocate for it
     
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    Died suddenly’ posts twist tragedies to push vaccine lies
    https://apnews.com/article/buffalo-...idents-covid-a8e3a80a015ba9bf78b6bd4f3c271f58

    Results from 6-year-old Anastasia Weaver’s autopsy may take weeks. But online anti-vaccine activists needed only hours after her funeral this week to baselessly blame the COVID-19 vaccine.

    A prolific Twitter account posted Anastasia’s name and smiling dance portrait in a tweet with a syringe emoji. A Facebook user messaged her mother, Jessica Day-Weaver, to call her a “murderer” for having her child vaccinated.

    In reality, the Ohio kindergartner had experienced lifelong health problems since her premature birth, including epilepsy, asthma and frequent hospitalizations with respiratory viruses. “The doctors haven’t given us any information other than it was due to all of her chronic conditions. ... There was never a thought that it could be from the vaccine,” Day-Weaver said of her daughter’s death.

    But those facts didn’t matter online, where Anastasia was swiftly added to a growing list of hundreds of children, teens, athletes and celebrities whose unexpected deaths and injuries have been incorrectly blamed on COVID-19 shots. Using the hashtag #diedsuddenly, online conspiracy theorists have flooded social media with news reports, obituaries and GoFundMe pages in recent months, leaving grieving families to wrestle with the lies.






     
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    This is anecdotal but since everyone else likes to share "evidence" that is even less than anecdotal here's my experience.

    I got the Omincron specific COVID-19 vaccine in mid November. In December and early January traveled through 6 countries, including Hong Kong which in the last few months had a surge of new infections. Was tested multiple times for both the rapid test and a PCR test upon arrival in Hong Kong airport. Didn't test positive in any of those and didn't even feel any symptoms. Suffered less side effects from the booster than I did very first two round of shots.
     

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