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D&D Coronavirus thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. rocketsjudoka

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    This is best for another thread but it's weird to claim that someone's rights are being violated by not being allowed to post on Twitter and you cite a post they made on Twitter.

    It would be like me saying "My wallet was stolen and to prove it here's my wallet."
     
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    That makes perfect sense. The majority of the population are vaccinated. It isn't surprising the most deaths would be from vaccinated people. The data also doesn't include time since boosters. The vaccine still provides the best protection against death and severe complications.
     
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    That first tweet smells like BS.
     
  5. Invisible Fan

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    hai gais, sum gai survived SARS and is immune 4 lyfe!

    Git it and if u live, u tuff!!
     
  6. DFWRocket

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    Anti-vaxxers don't understand Base-rate Fallacies. They would fail basic statistics classes.
     
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    So by "permanent" he means sporadic? Does he even go to Duke?
     
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    I believe he proudly said, "no thank you" to Duke.
     
  11. Colt45

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    Yeah, we KNOW. :rolleyes:
     
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    Kinda odd that athletes of all ages are having blood clots, heart attacks, strokes, no?

    What were these stats like pre-2020 vs now? Nvmd... this is all normal
     
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    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/c...ers-safety-monitoring-analyses-covid-vaccines

    "CDC finally releases vaers safety monitoring analysis covid vaccines"


    "SUMMARY
    • CDC’s VAERS safety signal analysis based on reports from Dec. 14, 2020 – July 29, 2022 for mRNA COVID-19 vaccines shows clear safety signals for death and a range of highly concerning thrombo-embolic, cardiac, neurological, hemorrhagic, hematological, immune-system and menstrual adverse events (AEs) among U.S. adults.

    • There were 770 different types of adverse events that showed safety signals in ages 18+, of which over 500 (or 2/3) had a larger safety signal than myocarditis/pericarditis.

    • The CDC analysis shows that the number of serious adverse events reported in less than two years for mRNA COVID-19 vaccines is 5.5 times larger than all serious reports for vaccines given to adults in the US since 2009 (~73,000 vs. ~13,000).

    • Twice as many mRNA COVID-19 vaccine reports were classified as serious compared to all other vaccines given to adults (11% vs. 5.5%). This meets the CDC definition of a safety signal.

    • There are 96 safety signals for 12-17 year-olds, which include: myocarditis, pericarditis, Bell’s Palsy, genital ulcerations, high blood pressure and heartrate, menstrual irregularities, cardiac valve incompetencies, pulmonary embolism, cardiac arrhythmias, thromboses, pericardial and pleural effusion, appendicitis and perforated appendix, immune thrombocytopenia, chest pain, increased troponin levels, being in intensive care, and having anticoagulant therapy.

    • There are 66 safety signals for 5-11 year-olds, which include: myocarditis, pericarditis, ventricular dysfunction and cardiac valve incompetencies, pericardial and pleural effusion, chest pain, appendicitis & appendectomies, Kawasaki’s disease, menstrual irregularities, vitiligo, and vaccine breakthrough infection.

    • The safety signals cannot be dismissed as due to “stimulated,” exaggerated, fraudulent or otherwise artificially inflated reporting, nor can they be dismissed due to the huge number of COVID vaccines administered. There are several reasons why, but the simplest one is this: the safety signal analysis does not depend on the number of reports, but whether or not some AEs are reported at a higher rate for these vaccines than for other non-COVID vaccines. Other reasons are discussed in the full post below.

    • In August, 2022, the CDC told the Epoch Times that the results of their safety signal analysis “were generally consistent with EB [Empirical Bayesian] data mining [conducted by the FDA], revealing no additional unexpected safety signals.” So either the FDA’s data mining was consistent with the CDC’s method—meaning they "generally" found the same large number of highly alarming safety signals—or the signals they did find were expected. Or they were lying. We may never know because the FDA has refused to release their data mining results."
     
  14. FranchiseBlade

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    Duke's lucky day.
     
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    Athletes do have blood clots, heart attacks, strokes, and so on pre-2020. Has there been an abnormal rise in the rate since the pandemic started? Maybe. Do show real data if you have it (social media and most non-science articles aren't real data).

    Assuming there is an abnormal rise. Do you know that contracting covid raises the risk of heart problems many folds? It's more likely that covid is the cause of the abnormal rise than anything else. But that would just be an educated game. Real data is needed.
     
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    Why nevermind? If you know the answer, provide the data.
     
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    The only significant year over year increase happened in 2020, before the vaccine was rolled out. This is from the Cardiac (CARES) Registry. We know that there is a significant risk of heart issues with COVID, so considering 2020 was the first year of the pandemic, this aligns with COVID.
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    What a damn clown! Like DeSantis said “ someone needs to grab that little elf and chucked him across the Potomac “. Lol
     
  20. DFWRocket

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    First, this is not from a summary of the findings from VAERS, but a summary of what was reported to VAERS. That is a huge difference. Here is the link to the original document:

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(22)00054-8/fulltext

    The article you are posting is from what is considered an extreme-right-wing based conspiracy website. They are literally known for spreading bad information and have a reputation for sharing very low amounts of factual information. Especially since it is well-known that the raw VAERS data has not been investigated nor compared to background data. So the summary you are quoting is raw information and actually includes things like "turned into the Incredible Hulk", "became homosexual", "drowned" and "died in a car wreck" as side effects from the vaccine. VAERS raw data cannot be used in this way.

    It still amazes me that 3 years later, people still want to use VAERS data, but refuse to follow the actual guidelines that VAERS itself uses to interpret the data.



    "When evaluating data from VAERS, it is important to note that for any reported event, no cause-and-effect relationship has been established. Reports of all possible associations between vaccines and adverse events (possible side effects) are filed in VAERS. Therefore, VAERS collects data on any adverse event following vaccination, be it coincidental or truly caused by a vaccine. The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event."

    https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/dataguide.html
     

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