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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. Amiga

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    "Scientist who worked at the Wuhan lab". Clearly wrong.
     
  2. AroundTheWorld

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    Why are you arguing against a strawman? Who here said that he worked at the Wuhan lab?
     
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  6. FranchiseBlade

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    I think we all know the answer to that. Fauci wasn't setting the policy of banning people from Twitter so the answer is none.
     
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    Yule C.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/fauci-...claration-covid-pandemic-lockdown-11640129116

    How Fauci and Collins Shut Down Covid Debate
    They worked with the media to trash the Great Barrington Declaration.

    In public, Anthony Fauci and Francis Collins urge Americans to “follow the science.” In private, the two sainted public-health officials schemed to quash dissenting views from top scientists. That’s the troubling but fair conclusion from emails obtained recently via the Freedom of Information Act by the American Institute for Economic Research.

    The tale unfolded in October 2020 after the launch of the Great Barrington Declaration, a statement by Harvard’s Martin Kulldorff, Oxford’s Sunetra Gupta and Stanford’s Jay Bhattacharya against blanket pandemic lockdowns. They favored a policy of what they called “focused protection” of high-risk populations such as the elderly or those with medical conditions. Thousands of scientists signed the declaration—if they were able to learn about it. We tried to give it some elevation on these pages.

    That didn’t please the lockdown consensus enforced by public-health officials and the press. Dr. Collins, the director of the National Institutes of Health until Sunday, sent an email on Oct. 8, 2020, to Dr. Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

    “This proposal from the three fringe epidemiologists . . . seems to be getting a lot of attention – and even a co-signature from Nobel Prize winner Mike Leavitt at Stanford. There needs to be a quick and devastating published take down of its premises,” Dr. Collins wrote. “Is it underway?”

    These researchers weren’t fringe and neither was their opposition to quarantining society. But in the panic over the virus, these two voices of science used their authority to stigmatize dissenters and crush debate. A week after his email, Dr. Collins spoke to the Washington Post about the Great Barrington Declaration. “This is a fringe component of epidemiology,” he said. “This is not mainstream science. It’s dangerous.” His message spread and the alternative strategy was dismissed in most precincts.

    Dr. Fauci replied to Dr. Collins that the takedown was underway. An article in Wired, a tech-news site, denied there was any scientific divide and argued lockdowns were a straw man—they weren’t coming back. If only it were true. The next month cases rose and restrictions returned.


    Dr. Fauci also emailed an article from the Nation, a left-wing magazine, and his staff sent him several more. The emails suggest a feedback loop: The media cited Dr. Fauci as an unquestionable authority, and Dr. Fauci got his talking points from the media. Facebook censored mentions of the Great Barrington Declaration. This is how groupthink works.

    On CBS last month, Dr. Fauci said Republicans who criticize him are “really criticizing science, because I represent science. That’s dangerous.” He isn’t “science.” And it’s also dangerous for scientific officials to mobilize to quash dissent, without which it’s easy to make tragic mistakes. A scientific debate over pandemic policy was and still is in the public interest, especially during a once-in-a-century plague.

    Focused protection of nursing homes and other high-risk populations remains the policy road not taken during the pandemic. Perhaps this strategy wouldn’t have prevailed if a debate had been allowed. But it isn’t enough to repeat, as Dr. Collins did on Fox News Sunday, that advocates are “fringe epidemiologists who really did not have the credentials,” and that “hundreds of thousands of people would have died if we had followed that strategy.”

    More than 800,000 Americans have died as much of the country followed the strategy of Drs. Collins and Fauci, and that’s not counting the other costs in lost livelihoods, shuttered businesses, untreated illnesses, mental illness from isolation, and the incalculable anguish of seeing loved ones die alone without the chance for a family to say good-bye.

    Rather than try to manipulate public opinion, the job of health officials is to offer their best scientific advice. They shouldn’t act like politicians or censors, and when they do, they squander the public’s trust.


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  8. FranchiseBlade

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    How clever.
     
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    And, by the way, Fauci's daughter worked at Twitter.

    https://www.action4liberty.com/fauci_s_daughter_worked_for_twitter_during_covid

    Fauci's Daughter Worked for Twitter During COVID
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    Since Elon Musk’s takeover of Twitter we have seen the truth brought into the light on many issues. Most notably is the crackhead Hunter Biden laptop story where Biden’s campaign coordinated with Twitter to censor the truth and label it as “Russian disinformation”. It was also uncovered that Twitter tampered in the Presidential election in Brazil to prevent Jair Bolsonaro from winning re-election. And of course there was plenty of shadow-banning and cancel culture that we know of.

    However, maybe the biggest story just got uncovered. During times of mask mandates, lockdowns, and censorship, Anthony Fauci’s daughter Ali Fauci worked for Twitter as a software engineer!

    This news is shocking to find out and was released in Dr. Fauci’s deposition with the Missouri and Arizona Attorney Generals. As per usual, Fauci skirts around questions with nonsensical word salads (including 174 times he said “I don’t recall”); however his admission about his daughter’s employment is a shocker. See the questioning below:

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    As you can tell by Fauci’s answers, he tried every which way to avoid the question because it proves a certain level of corroboration with Twitter to censor anything that Fauci wanted. Despite his daughter being a software engineer and not a content moderator, we would be foolish to assume this connection was by coincidence.

    You can read the full transcript of the deposition here.

    Ali Fauci’s current bio on empowerproject.us can be seen below:

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    The corruption of Twitter and the rest of Big Tech is being exposed more and more. It is powerful that Elon Musk is a truth-teller who supports free speech and Action 4 Liberty loves to see it! We hope Elon keeps up his work and exposes more corruption, censorship, and election manipulation by Twitter.
     
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    well that's inconvenient
     
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    He skirted around it because the person was asking if he knew someone who "works" for a social media company. Present-tense. He offered the information that his daughter used to work for Twitter. This isn't being evasive. It's trying to answer the question posed as accurately as possible.
     
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    I suppose she should have quit her job at Twitter as soon as the pandemic started? Or did she implant herself with the company in anticipation that her Dad might need her pulling strings with the company? What exactly are you driving at here?

    As for her supposed relationship with SBF -- again, what is the angle?

    Of course Breitbart would try to cast working to get higher vaccination rates in under-served communities as something sinister.

    This all comes across as very desperate dirt-digging.
     
  14. FranchiseBlade

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    Why would that be inconvenient?
     
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    I did not know Nostradamus was a Canuck!
     
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    We've been through several pages and several threads on "Twitter's Bloat," but now a mere senior software engineer has keys to the whole fuggin kingdom in altering 46 Billion Dollar algorithms and production settings.

    Roping in the daughter by association through innuendo is beyond the pale (commonplace nowadays), and silencing folks to protect her daddy like a malicious Keebler Elf rather than Doing Her Job is firable and tracable,

    You know what to do.

    Buy a blue checkmark, the send up the batsignal to stroke @Elon to dump more of his privileged company info in 10 tweets or less.

    It's that simple now, but I doubt he would do it because he already has the opportunity if there was anything juicy.

    Better hope your kids never run into guilt by association.
     
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    I agree with you that this doesn't necessarily mean any wrongdoing on her side, but just to mention that Twitter had awful access controls and basically 5,000 people had pretty much full access to everything.
     
  18. Invisible Fan

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    Which should be tracable. It's not like a startup where there'd be one account for a prod setting or license.

    Elon throwing her on the street would be the juciest and fattest of dumps with the highest of highs from purified highly concentrated liberal tears...
     
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    not good company to be in
     

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