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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    Wishing your wife and @bobrek's wife and everyone who has lingering symptoms well. It might just be my own prejudice from my experience with some of my own teachers and from reading about what some of these teachers unions do, but somehow it feels to me that the percentage of people among teachers who will use something like "long covid" (which is, as you say, not really formally defined) to take more days off is quite high in the US, too, compared to the overall population.

    Teachers and public administration officials in Germany, specifically in Berlin, had a much higher percentage of "long covid" than the general population. These two groups already took tons more days off sick than everyone else, even before covid. "Long covid" just lends itself really well to that, because it's very hard for a doctor to deny a sick note for it.
     
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    Perhaps it is because of all the exposure they have with kids who have all their family members as well.
     
  3. AroundTheWorld

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    Yeah, maybe.
     
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    Why are you doubting 19%? If you are doubting the stat then you are doubting the teachers who say they experience it.

    Also you didn't write "LOL @statistic". You wrote "LOL @teachers"
     
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    Breh
    What treatments have your wife had to remedy this ?
     
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    Long COVID is definitely real. I have a friend who is in her 30’s who got COVID early on in the pandemic. She’s never been the same since.
     
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    Real yes, but for a lot of people, it is psychological. There are studies about that as well.

    Basically, the more you talk about long covid, the more people have long covid.
     
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    Keep in mind that German teachers having long covid is probably a statistically small group - meaning it still might be within the margin of error for the general population and not actually be a difference. It would be interesting to see the data.

    And as someone else pointed out. Teachers are probably getting much higher exposure (viral load) than other populations. It would be interesting to also see if they get more severe covid than other people their age but I doubt that would be statistically valid.

    I know for myself it took me about a month just to feel like I wasn't fatigued anymore.
     
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    What is she doing to treat it ?
     
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    Certainly there probably are people who have psychological issues with COVID but long COVID is definitely real. My friend, Emily Jensen went public with her experience and talked about it in this article.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/three-...e-still-ravaged-by-covids-fallout-11593612004
     
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    There’s not much that can be done because she got it early we’ll before there were vaccines or other treatments. I haven’t talked to her specifically about her treatments but it sounds like she uses inhaled steroids like wha they use to treat asthma and also blood thinners to deal with clotting issues.
     
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    Any studies you can share?
     
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    The more tests the more cases
     
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    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2787741

    https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/the-dubious-origins-of-long-covid-11616452583#

    Stress, Anxiety Boost Chances of Getting Long Covid, Study Finds
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ost-chances-of-getting-long-covid-study-finds

    Associations of Depression, Anxiety, Worry, Perceived Stress, and Loneliness Prior to Infection With Risk of Post–COVID-19 Conditions | Depressive Disorders | JAMA Psychiatry | JAMA Network
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/ja...ticlePDF&utm_content=jamapsychiatry.2022.2640
     
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    I forgot the name of that "rare syndrome" that was big a few decades ago where people couldn't goto the office due to chemicals or an unverifiable allergic reaction.

    Seemed psychosomatic and ripe for fudging the numbers as well.

    I feel for people with long covid, hell I have occasional brain fog myself. Or maybe I'm just old and society is waiting for a new generational normal.
     
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    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/...inistration-covid-censorship-emails-big-tech/

    Judge Gives Fauci 21 Days to Turn Over Emails With Social Media Giants

    A federal judge on Tuesday ordered Dr. Anthony Fauci and the White House Press Secretary to hand over their communications with five social media giants. The ruling stems from a lawsuit alleging the Biden administration colluded with the companies to censor COVID-19 viewpoints that weren’t aligned with the administration’s official narrative.

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    Suzanne Burdick, Ph.D.

    A federal judge on Tuesday ordered top-ranking Biden administration officials — including Dr. Anthony Fauci and White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre — to hand over their communications with five social media giants within 21 days.

    The ruling stems from a lawsuit filed earlier this year by Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt and Louisiana Attorney General Jeffrey Landry alleging the Biden administration colluded with Big Tech firms Twitter, Meta (Facebook’s parent company), Youtube, Instagram and LinkedIn to censor certain viewpoints under the guise of preventing the circulation of “misinformation” or “disinformation.”

    U.S. District Judge Terry Doughty in July ordered the Biden administration to swiftly produce records requested by the plaintiffs as part of the discovery process.

    On Aug. 2, Schmitt and Landry filed discovery requests seeking documents and information from the National Institute of Allergies and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and its director, Fauci; White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre; Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy; and former Disinformation Governance Board executive director Nina Jankowicz.

    Attorneys for the plaintiffs also sent discovery requests to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC); the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency and its director, Jen Easterly; the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS); and the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

    The requests resulted in a cache of documents revealing more than 50 Biden administration workers and 12 U.S. agencies had been involved in a censorship push over social media.

    However, some government officials — including Fauci — refused to provide records or answer any questions posed by the plaintiffs, claiming the communications were protected under executive privilege.

    The government claimed Fauci should not be required to answer the plaintiff’s questions or provide records related to his capacity as NIAID director or related to his capacity as Biden’s chief medical officer. Additionally, the government sought to withhold records and responses from Jean-Pierre.

    Judge Doughty on Tuesday broke the stalemate by ruling that both Fauci and Jean-Pierre must comply with the interrogatories and hand over the requested records.

    “First,” Judge Doughty said in the ruling, “the requested information is obviously very relevant to Plaintiffs’ claims. Dr. Fauci’s communications would be relevant to Plaintiffs’ allegations in reference to alleged suppression of speech relating to the lab-leak theory of COVID-19’s origin, and to alleged suppression of speech about the efficiency of masks and COVID-19 lockdowns. Jean-Pierre’s communications as White House Press Secretary could be relevant to all of Plaintiffs’ examples.”

    (...)
     
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