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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. Amiga

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    doesn't affect you or me a single bit... if anything, their collective actions reduce spread and help everyone else
     
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    This is for the "I'm not dead so how can this be so bad" crowd:

    What World War II Taught Us About Our Mental Biases

    What survivorship bias is and how to avoid falling prey to it

    During World War II, researchers from the Center for Naval Analyses conducted a study on the damage done to returned aircraft after missions. They then recommended adding armor to the areas that showed the most damage to minimize bomber losses to enemy fire.

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    However, Abraham Wald suggested differently.

    Wald was a Hungarian mathematician and a member of the Statistical Research Group (SRG), where he applied his statistical skills to various wartime problems.

    He noted that the study was only conducted on the aircraft that had survived their missions. It didn’t paint a complete picture when the bombers that had been shot down were not presented for the damage assessment.

    With that, the holes in the returning aircraft were areas that need no extra armor — since the bombers could take damage and still return safely. On the other hand, the areas where the returning aircraft were unscathed are those areas that, if hit, would cause the plane to crash and be lost.

    Wald then proposed that the Navy reinforce areas by adding more armor to them — which was a perfect demonstration of how to not fall prey into the survivorship bias.

    What is survivorship bias?

    Survivorship Bias is a logical error that leads to false conclusions by concentrating on the people or things that made it past a particular selection process. And when we do this, we tend to overlook those that got ignored, typically because of their lack of visibility.

    Perhaps we should listen to the 2500 CV-19 dead per day for advice ... of which at least 90% are unvaccinated (and likely never wore a mask unless forced to).
     
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    It is possible to be:
    • pro vaccine (voluntary decision)
    • anti vaccine mandates
    • pro optional home office where possible
    • anti lockdown
    • pro optional masks
    • anti mask mandates (especially for children!)
    • pro encouraging staying at home when symptomatic (just like with any other contagious disease)
    • anti quarantine mandates and forced testing
    None of that makes anyone a Nazi or right-wing extremist.

    The mandates have to go - now, and for good.

    People can get vaccinated now and can wear N95 masks, if they are scared. But stop forcing illiberal rules on everyone just because you believe in big government or you have lost your moral compass. None of that stuff is normal. And none of that stuff even makes a difference - certainly not at this stage.
     
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  6. Invisible Fan

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    We're close to a million dead Americans where the peak fetched more kills than a single 9/11 per day.

    Doesn't seem like a hoax to me
     
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  7. AroundTheWorld

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    Who say it's a hoax???
     
  8. Commodore

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    That is theoretically possible. But the people most vocal about these things are generally the ones who happen to also be discouraging use of vaccines, referring to masks as abusive, and often dismissing the danger of uncontrolled spread of COVID in the population. Many of them try to argue that letting COVID spread is a good thing.

    Those are the people I have a problem with. If they were in an extreme minority, I wouldn't care. But there's far too many of them, stoked by political opportunists, which (ironically) makes the various restrictions more important as a public health measure.
     
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    With Omicron, that might be right. Focused protection is what's needed.
     
  11. No Worries

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    Why would that be?

    Is it time for Grandma to die? She's not spending that money anyway.
     
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    Omicron: Less Virulent But Still Dangerous

    The rapid rise of Omicron variant infections around the world has led the virological community to take a closer look at the extremely infectious strain. Early data clearly indicates that Omicron is far more transmissible than strains that came before. One study estimates that Omicron is 2.7 to 3.7 times more transmissible than the Delta variant among vaccinated individuals. However, it seems Omicron may not be as virulent, or intense in terms of symptoms, as earlier strains like Alpha and Delta, particularly in vaccinated individuals. The Moderna, Pfizer, Johnson & Johnson, and AstraZeneca vaccines appear to protect against severe disease consequences. However, it is likely that in the unvaccinated, Omicron will still cause severe illness, and as such should not be taken lightly. Director-General of the World Health Organization Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus notes that “While Omicron does appear to be less severe compared to Delta, especially in those vaccinated, it does not mean it should be categorized as mild.”

    More transmissible appears to be trumping less virulent.
     
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    @Jontro looks like one your bdsm kinks you asked in another thread.
     
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    Lol. True believers are so so cute.
     
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    Amsterdam Red Light + low budget porta potty?
     
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    So much in this... hannity can't guarantee that the trumpy trucker protestors won't turn violent? Or is hannity suggesting they become violent?

     
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    This is scarily totalitarian discrimination.
     

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