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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. SamFisher

    SamFisher Contributing Member

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    Brazil is going to be surpassing us in full vaccination soon - even though it has a clownish antivax president - we meanwhile let antivax embarrassments rant about personal choices and their own research (though they're mostly just cowards like @Possum )
     
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  3. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Vaccines do not fully prevent cases, but we know, even many months out, they greatly reduce hospitalization risk.

    The Wall Street Journal does us a favor by compiling some state data to clearly demonstrate this.

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  4. jchu14

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    Looking at case rates of covid in India in all of the states, case rates are dropping like rocks in most states. Do all of those states other than Uttar Pradesh also provide ivermectin prophylatically as well as being used as treatment? If not, then what how can one say definitively that ivermectin is the cause of UP's cases to drop?

    https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/india/

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  5. Possum

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    Anytime you want to test that theory in person just let me know. Oh and that study from Brazil was ****. Have you read it or are you just reading headlines and posting what you think aligns with your ignorant narrative? Now go and destroy your children’s future by convincing them to take something they don’t need because you’re a little scared btch.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34418758/

    Results: The reviewed literature suggests that there seems to be sufficient evidence about the safety of oral ivermectin, as well as the efficacy of the drug in the early-treatment and the prophylaxis of COVID-19.

    Conclusions: In the view of the available evidence, the Frontline COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) recommends the use of oral ivermectin for both prophylaxis and early-treatment of COVID-19. Further well-designed studies should be conducted in order to explore the efficacy and safety of invermectin at low and high doses, following different dosing schedules, in both, the short and long-term treatment.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33259913/

    drug administration of prophylactic chemotherapy including ivermectin have a significantly lower incidence of COVID-19. Prophylactic use of ivermectin against parasitic infections is most common in Africa and we hence show that the reported correlation is highly significant both when compared among African nations as well as in a worldwide context. We surmise that this may be connected to ivermectin's ability to inhibit SARS-CoV-2 replication, which likely leads to lower infection rates.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/

    Conclusions:
    Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.

    https://www.christianitydaily.com/a...e-attempts-to-undermine-its-effectiveness.htm

    "In conclusion, in the countries where ivermectin is distributed to and used by the entire areas, it suggests to lead a reduction in mortality, to accelerate patient recovery and, to avoid death. And this analytical study will suggest that early treatment with ivermectin may accelerate recovery and prevent worsening of symptoms in patients with mild disease. These findings can be efficiently translated into therapies for SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19)."

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.26.21254377v1.full.pdf

    https://xenagoguevicene.wordpress.c...ovid-treatment-by-mordechai-sones-1-aug-2021/

    Pfizer suppressing ivermectin!

    Unredacted contracts for the experimental biological agent known as the “COVID-19 vaccine” between the Pfizer corporation and various governments continue to be revealed.


    “If you were wondering why Ivermectin was suppressed, it is because the agreement that countries had with Pfizer does not allow them to escape their contract, which states that even if a drug will be found to treat COVID-19, the contract cannot be voided”

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    “Supplying the product: ‘Pfizer shall have no liability for any failure to deliver doses in accordance with any estimated delivery dates… nor shall any such failure give Purchaser any right to cancel orders for any quantities of Product.’


    Now for the BIG SECRET: $12 per dosage for about 250K units. Funny that this is the price for a small amount of dosages when Pfizer was charging the U.S. $19.50 per dose.

    “U.S. taxpayers got screwed by Pfizer, probably also Israel.

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    “About payment, the country has no right ‘to withhold, offset, recoup or debit any amounts owed to Pfizer, whether under this Agreement or otherwise, against any other amount owed (or to become due and owing) to it by Pfizer or a Pfizer Affiliate.’
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    “Once again: ‘Under no circumstances will Pfizer be subject to or liable for any late delivery penalties.’
     
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  6. DFWRocket

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    Uttar Pradesh began using Ivermectin last year..but it didn't stop the gigantic spike they (and all other parts of India had in April). Utterkahn and Goa didn't begin to distribute Ivermectin until after the spike had peaked and cases had already began dropping off. Now the place looks better but Uttar Pradesh is also the highest vaccinated area in India since April.

    Kerala (mentioned in your article) is going through a slight uptick in cases, but they also coincidently have a much much lower rate of vaccination (1/3 of Uttar Pradesh) and is dealing with a slight increase in cases right now.

    Of course we still don't know the actual numbers of people who died from COVID in Uttar Pradesh because their health data is very poorly kept. Many of the districts there did not report any deaths from anything for several months, and we do know that India has had about 3.5 - 5 million excess deaths during the pandemic that have not been classified at all.
     
  7. SamFisher

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    I absolutely would welcome it if you took a barrel of ivermectin and some crackers and spent the next 6 months in a batcave to test your theories!

    Please feel free! Or else stop being a coward and take a vaccine.
     
  8. geeimsobored

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    UP has been flat making up covid stats for a while now. Conveniently, the UP government is up for re-election next year and magically their reported cases goes to near zero.

    Also ivermectin-stans don't claim that it reduces cases. They claim that its a treatment for cases. So in that scenario, you'd see cases roughly in line with other states around it but deaths and hospitalizations significantly lower. UP is absurdly claiming that their case count is near zero. That's a combination of fictitious numbers and next to no testing. Also ivermectin hasn't (and frankly can't) be administered on any scale in UP. The infrastructure to even deliver medication at scale doesn't exist. This is one of the poorest states in India. People flat out don't have access to health care in most of the state. UP is mostly rural where people sometimes have to travel hundreds of miles to get to a hospital or clinic. If you get covid in UP, you're more or less on your own.

    Also, the government of India told the UP government to stop recommending Ivermectin (despite both being BJP governments). This happened over a year ago and has not been used in UP or India at large since then.

    Lastly, to compare UP (with one of the lowest human development indices in India) to Kerala (the state with the highest human development index as well as the strongest health care system in India) is a joke. Not a single Indian would prefer to ever have any health care administered in UP over Kerala. The two aren't even comparable.
     
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    Fines between $140 to $580 for not wearing a mask there
     
  10. Rashmon

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    Why is anyone concerning themselves with horse de-wormer when there are three perfectly effective vaccines?

    Vaccines that eliminate the need for idiots trying hail mary drugs by eliminating the virus in the population. I have a pocketknife in my pocket that has stopped me from contacting covid.

    Whatever happened to smallpox and polio?
     
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    I was paying $37.89 for 8 tablets 3mg of Stromectol last year, the generic version costs $9.96. It’s a far cry from the new antiviral from Merck Molnupiravir, a whopping $700 for a 5 day course.
    Hey Merck, stop being so damn greedy, and stop smearing your own drug so you can make more money with the new one.
     
  12. NewRoxFan

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    You can get it for much cheaper at chewy.com... https://www.chewy.com/iverhart-plus...TCbAuLjZ-vXrRJxQUqKzFS2TDXA-UEtxoCvegQAvD_BwE
     
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    Anyone who follows this stuff closely have any ideas when a vaccine will be available for children.

    My 5 year old is in a pre-k program and I am extremely worried about her contracting it.
     
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  15. jchu14

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    FDA advisory meeting for pediatric vaccine is tentatively scheduled for Oct 26. Decision usually comes within a few days. Distribution could come a couple of weeks after that. Though I don't know if new syringes will need to be distributed since Pfizer's pediatric trials are with 10ug of vaccine rather than 30ug in adults.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/01/us/politics/fda-pfizer-children-boosters-moderna-johnson.html
     
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  16. Possum

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    SMH. Never mind waste of time.
     
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  17. Rileydog

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    I can’t believe nobody asked the important questions:

    is your coat shiny?

    has your quarter mile improved?

    do you feel sudden urges to jump over obstacles?

    have you felt like spending more time face down in the grass?
     
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  19. Possum

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    How can people be this ignorant?
     
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    Get ready. With sheeple like the ones here begging for it screaming that it should be mandatory it’s only a matter of time. It’s unbelievable every little doubt is chastised and shouted down yet they allow the government and big pharma to get away with basically anything they want. They say believe the science but ignore any science that/doesn’t agree with their narrative. They say believe the DRs but ignore all the DRs and health officials world wide that speak out against the vaccines even though these DRs are risking their livelihood. And they ignore all the healthcare employees that are seeing all of this first hand and refusing to take it. Fkn sheeple man. Hell maybe the world does need to be depopulated.
     
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