https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/27/briefing/covid-red-states-vaccinations.html A Pew Research Center poll last month found that 86 percent of Democratic voters had received at least one shot, compared with 60 percent of Republican voters. Spoiler Since Delta began circulating widely in the U.S., Covid has exacted a horrific death toll on red America: In counties where Donald Trump received at least 70 percent of the vote, the virus has killed about 47 out of every 100,000 people since the end of June, according to Charles Gaba, a health care analyst. In counties where Trump won less than 32 percent of the vote, the number is about 10 out of 100,000. Spoiler
OK, so clinical trials are in progress. Hopefully it turns out to that they can be beneficial. I think medical professionals shouldn't give people who are reluctant to get a vaccine a false sense of hope that if they get COVID-19 they can cure it with ivermectin or other treatments that haven't been rigorously tested.
what's interesting here is the eagerness with which people embrace the precautionary principle in areas like climate change, but then are adamant the same precautionary principle not be applied as a matter of personal choice about one's own health
So now we went to from Nigerian Pediatricians who believe in witchcraft to Nurse Practitioners and Comedians that does UFC play by play on Covid treatments . People are so F'ing dumb.
Nah don't give me a vaccine approved by the FDA, a federal agency main job is check if medications/food/herbal products is safe to use for that purpose. The fda where they have doctors, scientists and pharmacist working around the clock. Give me ivermectin and hydrochloroquine bc some talk host that I listen to daily says it safe. Give me drugs not designed for covid and hasn't been approved by the fda bc my body my choice. That's like asking for an asthma inhaler to treat diabetes.
I love it that you brought this up. I very much disagree with your take and thought covid pandemic is a fine example of the precautionary principle at play. 1- Before vaccines, everything was on the table. Anything that even has a slight potential was funded for clinical trials. 2- The usual standard for peer review was paused. You got data, just throw it out there. This was risky but worth it given the pandemic. 3- If there is a safe effective free/low-cost solution to climate change, we would all jump on it. We are there today with covid vaccines. 4- Given #3 doesn't exclude others since vaccines are preventative, not treatment. IVM has NOT been excluded.. it's simply "rated" as not showing any clinical benefits, but at the same time, also "rated' as not dangerous and left to dr to decide for themselves. 5- IVM in the animal form IS dangerous and thus everyone sensible pushed back on that
Both issues relate to public health in a broad sense, and in both cases the precautionary principle being embraced would be not "personal choice" but what is understood by scientific consensus to be the most effective way of dealing with the respective problems.
Are we really surprised? The education level and overall intelligence level in the Trump infested counties has to be much lower.
But really, good for Garrison for not taking up a hospital because he is at least a consistent deplorable. But if he dies, he dies.
