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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. durvasa

    durvasa Contributing Member

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    When they're in the ICU? I suppose there probably isn't any harm, but is there any evidence to suggest it's effective as treatment for people who are in critical condition due to not being vaccinated?
     
  2. Gioan Baotixita

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    AS IT SHOULD BE When a country loves
    Their people.

    Every citizen in El Salvador (Central America) is provided with an "anti-COVID 19 kit" containing the following products free of charge by the! government, if needed.

    The kit contains

    - Paracetamol and aspirin (anti-inflammatory)
    - Loratadine (antihistamine)
    - Ivermectin (against parasite infestation)
    - Azithromycin (antibiotic)
    - Vitamin C (500mg)
    - Vitamin D (2000 IU)
    - Zinc (50mg)
    - Electrolytes (minerals)

    Guatemala and Bolivia are now also implementing this program. This is going in the right direction - this is what it looks like when parts of a government have a genuine interest in finding a solution and protecting (not killing) the population.

    You guys still thinking our government is looking out for us by pushing the damn vaccines, masks and not the early treatments?
     
  3. Amiga

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    I read about the latest crazy a few days ago. Some people believe dr are purposely killing covid patients (the proof is they aren't using this drug). These people are advising each other to not go to the ER and to pull their families out of the hospital. I got just nothing left.
     
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  4. Gioan Baotixita

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    So what exactly Covid patients are given when hospitalized besides waiting until they get really sick and then get intubated? I swear, it is happening everyday in the hospitals and you guys don’t see it. Other countries are given their citizens a chance to live but not here.
     
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    The government sending “medicine” to houses for all the sheeple to blindly take sounds like socialist population control. I bet those aren’t even the real drugs because you can’t trust the government. It is probably actually pills injected with the Covid virus to make people sick because the government thinks unvaccinated will be more likely to take preventive drugs.
     
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  6. durvasa

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    Is parasite infestation a bigger problem for people with COVID-19? I suppose if it is, and chances of developing parasitic infections are greater in certain countries, it makes sense to include Ivermectin as part of the treatment.
     
  7. Gioan Baotixita

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    Lay off whatever crap that is making you high man. Lol
     
  8. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    I shouldn't even bother with this. You are freaking delusional.

    NIH has treatment recommendations for non-hospitalized and for hospitalized. Trump was given some of them when he was hospitalized for covid. Therapies | COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines (nih.gov)
     
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  11. Gioan Baotixita

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    So then why other countries are given Ivermectin to their citizens where in America, loved ones of patients had to sue the hospitals so their dying spouses, parents or siblings can take the horse deworming drug so they can have a chance to live?
     
  12. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    You mean that government entities actually change their thinking as more data becomes available? Shocking!
     
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  13. Gioan Baotixita

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    You sure about that? You sure that…hospitals give Covid patients such treatments? You’re the delusional one if you think they do.
     
  14. Invisible Fan

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    Because they have no other choice.

    We can get a vaccine in days whereas they wait for months just to get the first shot, at this point... if ever.

    They're throwing the kitchen sink at it ,but you can bet your ivermectin plugged ass they'd rather choose the poke than taking a patch of remedies from the local Gypsy queen prophylacticly.
     
  15. durvasa

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    Is there evidence that the recovery rate for COVID hospital patients in those other countries is higher than here?
     
  16. DatRocketFan

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    I find it pretty foolish for patients inflicted with COVID to demand for Ivermectin, a med used to deworm parasites from horse. There's is literally not enough evidence to prove that its safe and has been seen used only as a last resort, last ditch effort when the person is basically about to go.

    These same patients refuse to prevent this incident from happening because they don't trust vaccines. Where countless study/research by well-known pharmacy companies and given the approval by the FDA was made for this vaccinations.

    People would rather shoot up a dangerous drug that isn't even designed for COVID rather receive the vaccinations for COVID. btch about not trusting doctors and the FDA on the vaccinations, but ya shoot me up with horse drug. so dumb.
     
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    Parasitic infection is endemic there? They are just desperate and throwing the kitchen sink at it? Whatever the case, IVM has yet to show clinical benefit.

    NIH does recommend using IVM for areas where parasitic infection is endemic. From the NIH link I showed you: "Prophylactic treatment with IVM should be considered for persons who are from areas where strongyloidiasis is endemic."

    At the end of the day, there is no good treatment for hospitalized patients with Covid19. There is an easy safe, free, and widely available prevention for nearly everyone.
     
  18. DatRocketFan

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    U do know that when it comes to Meds, there's always an update to the profile to any med if a new side effect that hasn't been seen yet is identified.

    Like for example, Dapagliflozin (Farxiga) a med approved for type 2 Diabetes in 1/8/2014, FDA updated that in 10/21/19 that it can also Reduce the Risk of Hospitalization for Heart Failure in Patients with Type 2 Diabetes

    Hell just a year ago, they found out that this drug has an increased risk that can lead to amputation.
     
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  19. DatRocketFan

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    like if a patient goes in the hospital with covid.

    Isn't it just fluids, steroids for inflammation, proning position, oxygen and remdesivir? if all those did nothing, it's just hope for the best?
     
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