1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

D&D Coronavirus thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. jchu14

    jchu14 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2000
    Messages:
    947
    Likes Received:
    948
    Official Covid 19 treatment handbook version 5.2, last updated on July 29th, 2021. Published by Japanese Ministry of Health.
    https://www.mhlw.go.jp/content/000815065.pdf

    Page 54
    [​IMG]


    Google Translation:
    Ivermectin (antiparasitic drug, efficacy / effect: fecal nematode, scabies): Currently, the doctor in Japan
    A clinical trial is being conducted (jRCT2031200120). Latest meta-analysis (10 randomized controlled trials)
    In the study), treatment with ivermectin was used in milder patients compared to standard treatment or placebo.
    It has been reported that it did not improve all-cause mortality, length of hospital stay, and virus disappearance time.
     
    DFWRocket likes this.
  2. durvasa

    durvasa Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2006
    Messages:
    38,037
    Likes Received:
    15,519
    No one should care if Rogan takes Ivermectin. That's his business. The issue would be him using his platform to encourage Ivermectin as a reasonable alternative to vaccines when vaccines have proven to be effective, Ivermectin hasn't, and reports mount of people taking Ivermectin horse formula and being hospitalized as a result. I haven't listened to Rogan's podcast since the Spotify move, so maybe he's not doing that.
     
  3. Gioan Baotixita

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2021
    Messages:
    1,550
    Likes Received:
    405
    We have a bunch of brainwashed liberals in here that do not know history. Regarding Fauci and the current pandemic, you guys seriously do not see the similarities of how he handled the AIDS pandemic in the 80s?

    Countless people have died and lots of them were gay men because of Fauci’s misinformation and mishandling of the pandemic. He dismissed many drugs and therapies that can potentially save many lives by just promoting the development of the bullshiet AIDS vaccine and the highly toxic drug AZT(follow the money).

    He was against the simple antibiotic Bactrim which was prescribed for AIDS patients with pneumonia. Many died unnecessarily like what’s going on now with Ivermectin.

    Open your damn eyes and minds and think for yourself and quit shooting the messenger.

    You guys were clowning on Rogan too for taking Ivermectin, does the fact that he is well and healthy mean anything to you? Since Rogan took a bevy of stuffs to help himself so one cannot be sure of what actually helped him.

    The point is we are in a pandemic and everything should be on the table to help the patient survived this nightmare, but when you start seeing campaigns of smear, misinformation and censorship, people with brains gotta ask themselves why?
     
  4. Gioan Baotixita

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2021
    Messages:
    1,550
    Likes Received:
    405
    And why do you think people are taking the horse version of Ivermectin?
     
  5. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    98,875
    Likes Received:
    41,457
    He's not , and he has the right to sue because he didn't get horse dewormer hahahahaha
    all he has to do is show the courts that his doctor prescribed him the human version of that drug and he'd win all that money through settlements for defamation
     
  6. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    98,875
    Likes Received:
    41,457
    people are dumb

    look at all the kids killing themselves on tiktok for dumb challenges
    people fall off mountains for selfies

    this is not about math or english SAT scores, it's about common sense vs the need to accept or be accepted by social media
     
  7. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 1999
    Messages:
    36,288
    Likes Received:
    26,639
    Still waiting for that proof that the Japanese government ordered doctors to use ivermectin.
     
  8. durvasa

    durvasa Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2006
    Messages:
    38,037
    Likes Received:
    15,519
    Not a legal expert, but I don't see how he'd win such a case. Ivermectin is a horse de-wormer, in addition to having other uses for humans. His legal team would have to prove that they were claiming he was specifically using a formula intended only for horses, wouldn't he?
     
  9. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    98,875
    Likes Received:
    41,457
    that's not its sole usage.
    there are versions of that drug for humans for specific reasons.

    he DID NOT get the formula used for horses.

    https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-1122/ivermectin-oral/details

    This medication is used to treat certain parasitic roundworm infections. Curing parasitic infections helps to improve your quality of life. In people with weakened defense (immune) systems, curing roundworm infections can reduce the risk of developing a severe or life-threatening infection. Ivermectin belongs to a class of drugs known as antihelmintics. It works by paralyzing and killing parasites.
     
  10. Gioan Baotixita

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2021
    Messages:
    1,550
    Likes Received:
    405
    And that’s why the media has the responsibility to tell the truth. Everyone of those stories with Ivermectin always involved a headline with a horse’s head along with the countless nasty side effects.

    They will never tell the audience that Ivermectin the drug for human is a Nobel prize winning drug that for 40 years, 4 billions dosages have been prescribed to 1/3 of the world population with only known 16 deaths so far, safer than your ordinary aspirin.

    Another point is why people are using the veterinary version of the drug because of the smear and fear campaign, very few doctors are willing to prescribe it to their patients.

    It is so shameful what’s been happening to us and you liberals in here are willingly going along with this madness.
     
  11. durvasa

    durvasa Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2006
    Messages:
    38,037
    Likes Received:
    15,519
    Sure, so he says. I'm sure he'd have no problem finding a doctor that will prescribe it to him.

    What I'm saying is that someone referring to it mockingly as "horse de-wormer" doesn't seem like defamation to me.
     
    dmoneybangbang likes this.
  12. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    98,875
    Likes Received:
    41,457
    There's alcohol where get a Budweiser
    and there's the alcohol that's used to treat wounds

    People tend to take what the media feeds you

    I know people who think that all Texans carry assault rifles all the time
    that's wrong
    that's like saying girls in the middle east don't like wearing bikinis
     
    Gioan Baotixita likes this.
  13. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    98,875
    Likes Received:
    41,457
    https://variety.com/2021/digital/news/joe-rogan-ivermectin-covid-cnn-1235058799/

    “Bro, do I have to sue CNN?” he said. “They’re making **** up! They keep saying I’m taking horse dewormer. I literally got it from a doctor. It’s an American company. They won the Nobel Prize in 2015 for use in human beings and CNN is saying I’m taking horse dewormer. They must know that’s a lie.”
     
  14. Gioan Baotixita

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2021
    Messages:
    1,550
    Likes Received:
    405
    Believe me Rogan will win on this lawsuit. The burden of proof is on CNN and their media malpractice. For the last time Ivermectin is not a horse dewormer, it is an anti-parasitic drug first developed for humans, the animal version came later and does not require a prescription.

    You see how you can slander an essential drug which happened to be on the WHO’s list of essential medicines by labeling it as a horse de-wormer.
     
  15. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    98,875
    Likes Received:
    41,457
    @durvasa

    did he PROMOTE the usage of these drugs?
    You can't get Z-Pak, Prednisone without a prescription from a doctor

    There's video evidence of what he said and what they said. Also he has evidence he got a prescription.
    Is there evidence he promoted others to use this?

    plus what they did could damage his show if they post false narratives about him. that's actual money.

    this is what CNN said
    https://variety.com/2021/digital/news/joe-rogan-ivermectin-covid-cnn-1235058799/
    Rogan’s treatment, according to a video he posted on Sept. 1, included, “Monoclonal antibodies, ivermectin, Z-Pak, prednisone, everything. I also got an NAD drip and a vitamin drip and I did that three days in a row.”

    This raised pointed coverage from CNN, including a “Don Lemon Tonight” segment with Dr. Jonathan Reiner, who said, “He’s promoting kind of a crazy jumble of you know, sort of folk remedies and internet-prescribed drugs. It’s, again, dangerous now. He should have more sense after encountering the disease. And again, I hope he does well and gets well quickly. He’s not helping matters when he promotes this sort of nonsense therapeutic mix.”
     
    Gioan Baotixita likes this.
  16. Gioan Baotixita

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2021
    Messages:
    1,550
    Likes Received:
    405
    Not sure why you are waiting? Lol
     
  17. adoo

    adoo Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2003
    Messages:
    9,802
    Likes Received:
    6,284
    yip, General_03,

    most CF posters, who won the POTUS bet against you, are still wating for you to pay up​
     
  18. Gioan Baotixita

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2021
    Messages:
    1,550
    Likes Received:
    405
    If we don’t see this as an active smear campaign to kill us, then we are in deep shitt.
     
  19. Gioan Baotixita

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2021
    Messages:
    1,550
    Likes Received:
    405
    Any word on Taiwan?
     
  20. adoo

    adoo Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2003
    Messages:
    9,802
    Likes Received:
    6,284
    the latest eg of General_03 trying to change the topic when sensing defeat on the debat on COVID/Fauci
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now