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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    That picture is very illogical to me. I guess I can't speak to Texas but all the stores in San Francisco (arguably at the end of a supply chain with millions of people in the whole area crowded together) get restocked very regularly.

    As long as there's money to be made, the supply chain will function, seems to me.

    I know I'm no fun rejecting the whole apocalyptic picture thing, or I can already hear (not from you, but certain internet voices, that I'm a "sheeple" being led to certain slaughter by my stupidity). But a set of people staying home from work isn't going to sever our supply chains.

    If you ask grocers to stock products out of the goodness of their hearts? With no profit motive? Yeah, that could get dicey. I assume that is just one of many reasons the feds are talking about putting $ in peoples' hands next month.
     
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    The stores in Minneapolis are well stocked except for TP and bread. It's a good thing I bought a lot of TP more than a month ago (I'm the Kelly Loefler of insider wiping) and I don't eat a lot of bread.
     
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    I would have thought the same thing .... But seeing the store shelves absolutely barren last Friday and again yesterday made me think about the possibility.
    Yesterday there was no meat , limited amounts of bread , rice , eggs , water and milk. Still no dry beans , sugar , coffee or flour & the canned goods isle was completely bare.

    They were limiting customers to one package of female products ... no paper towels , toilet paper at all.

    One thing they had plenty of was beer and wine , they must have just gotten shipments in because it was stacked everywhere throughout the store.

    I've been going to that store for the last 20ish years and know pretty much everyone there , asked the manager when they would be restocking - his answer to sum it up - "I don't know - sporadically".
     
  4. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    I’m just saying: if someone can make money bringing meat and eggs to TX shelves, it will happen. :)
     
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    You want all stores to close? 30 seconds of google searching found their employees get sick PTO.
     
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    "How long does coronavirus stay “alive” on surfaces?
    Up to three days, depending on the surface. According to a study funded by the US National Institutes of Health:

    • The new coronavirus is viable up to 72 hours after being placed on stainless steel and plastic.
    • It was viable up to four hours after being placed on copper, and up to 24 hours after being put on cardboard.
    • In aerosols, it remained viable for three hours."
     
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  8. Corrosion

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    Oh I don't dispute that .... but this ins't isolated to just Texas.


    Curious if you've ventured out in the past few days , what's it look like in your neck of the woods ?
     
  9. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Yeah, I walk the dog a few times a day. I got some groceries two days ago at a local market. And today I went to my corner bodega b/c the owner, Chuck, is great, and he can give me a rundown of things. He said today things have really calmed down but overall sales have been great for him. He's not having any trouble getting resupplied so far, BUT he said if people kept panic buying, there's no way the supply chain can do that. (And that makes sense.) You have to think once people have 300 loaves of bread, they might calm down.

    If they don't (and they're calming down out here in SF anyway), then the nightmare scenario could happen.
     
  10. peleincubus

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    I would assume it is a week or two at most. After that nada
     
  11. Bandwagoner

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    20 seconds research it looks like they get 6 days sick 6 days personal and 2 weeks vacation between 6 months and 4 years employment. pretty standard.

    they employ seasonal workers for christmas who get nothing and are probably not currently employed there.
     
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    That might be the result of panic buying more than supply chain issues.

    The US produces so much food - remember we pay farmers to destroy food. The food supply is not in danger, what's in danger are the things we import - things like drugs and medical equipment - mainly from China, who we are pissing off.
     
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    Please provide link to info that say Hobby Lobby hourly employees do get paid sick leave (which is what you are claiming to refute)
     
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    ^ back and forths like these are the reason we need federally guaranteed paid leave. Does anybody not support that concept? Is there a reason why we are behind the entire world on that issue?

    Most highly developed countries guarantee paid leave days for

    Vacation
    Sickness
    Childbirth

    Time for us too as well.
     
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    yeah so if you are ever looking for a job you can typically find the copy of the benefits if the company is large enough. Even small companies have them online for employee convenience just close to impossible to find. This is the link but it's a pdf

    https://employee.hobbylobby.com/BenefitsDocumentCenter/GetDocument/Reference/1/62
     
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    According to that is only for full-time / salaried employees. Hourly works do not get that benefit.
     
  17. B-Bob

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    Salary workers get sick pay but no PPTO. Hourly get PPTO but no sick pay. It's the same thing accrued at the same rate. The difference is hourly can have their traded for cash annually.

    So you are basically wrong as per losual.
     
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  20. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    no. I am allowed to dislike the eagles and their earnestness though. Give me some real rock.
     
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