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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Two Sandwiches, Jul 11, 2014.

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  1. cyberx

    cyberx Member

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    I never said that is what being discussed by any means. Also, people saying Dwight would be hurt etc. Dwight and Williams are just as close if not closer.
     
  2. larsv8

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    Lets look at a Deron Williams trade. Not that I am advocating, but lets just try and piece something together.

    Deron makes 19.7m, which means the Rockets would need to come within 5m of that, or 14.7m for the trade to be legal under the current CBA. Now I peg the value of a Deron Williams as about an expiring contract, so lets see the minimum amount of talent we can send out.

    Capella (1.1m)
    Dorsey (.9m)
    Daniels (.8m)
    Terry (5.8m)
    Garcia (.9m)
    Papa (4.8m)
    Black (.5m)

    Total: 15m

    So we could muster the salary, but that would gut our rotation and we are sending out Terry, Papa and Capella, all of whom I would consider assets. Not to mention 7 for one trades aren't really going to work, so we would need to take back some Nets players via a trade exception to fill out our roster and get value back for our assets.

    Looking at the Brooklyn roster, we could take back Kirilenko, Teletovic, and Plumlee with our trade exception to help fill out the roster and get some value for our assets.

    Our final Depth chart would be:

    Beverley / Williams / Cannan / Johnson
    Harden / (Ray Allen?)
    Ariza / Kirilenko
    Jones / Dmo / Tetovic
    Howard / Plumlee

    Its a little more balanced but I dunno how much better that team is.
     
  3. jtr

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    The line in this thread is well past the line of insanity.
     
  4. Fyreball

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    I understand that. That's actually my point. It's NOT being discussed because it's preposterous. You're saying that you were just trying to prove a point that it was POSSIBLE, and I'm saying that ANYTHING is possible when you've got one team clearly overpaying in your proposal.
     
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    we may have to add a third team in order to not give too much.
     
  6. Carl Herrera

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    The question, to me, is how attractive a situation Daryl Morey thinks that the Rockets can be to a free agent or upcoming free agent with leverage to dictate his destination.

    DWill has looked better at times this season and, at his best, can be a game changer. But I am thinking that the Rockets can attract/trade for someone with a better risk/reward profile. DWill is owed $20M+ for each of the next 3 years. His contract kills any chance at chasing not only 2015 free agents but also 2016 ones even if there is a big jump in cap figures-- and didn't people say that Morey may want to see if Harden can help attract Durant?


    For a team like the Lakers DWill makes more sense. They've tried to attract big time guys and failed. They can't even retain their own guys like Dwight and Gasol. DWill is just about as good as they are gonna get.
     
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    Iffy on Williams. Ariza HAS to stay though or no dice.
     
  8. xiki

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    Why is the narrative that Kobe is on such fumes? Can you, anyone even, feel assured that the Lakes will improve without Bryant? That the $$$ will be put to such grand use?
     
  9. CisBuds4U

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    why mess with a good thing? The Rockets MO this year has been D and HEART. Let's see what a fully healthy squad can accomplish…second best record in the league and we are trying to shake it up already?! Come on man! I love me some Dragic and some other pgs out there but at what cost? Morey has placed 'chemistry' and team-cohesiveness seemingly on the back-burner ( I don't believe it to be truly so but the trade machine begs otherwise) and we keep trading away players that prove with a little more time, coaching, and faith, would've been better than the options we lusted after (See: Dragic, Lowry)…

    I'm beginning to like this team, like its make-up, they have a different kind of swagger to them, a different kind of maturity (thank you Jason Terry? Ariza? the new harDen?)and seemingly a desire to win… The injuries to key players have allowed bench players and others to flourish…lets keep it rolling!
     
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    DWill is not worth Ariza alone

    The way Terry is playing, I would be hesitant to involve Terry in any DWill trade.

    In reality you could make any trade between any two teams work. It means nothing. Morey is probably engaged in lots of talk but I doubt DWill is amongst them.
     
  11. jtr

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    That well sums it up.
     
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    Morey wouldn't be so stupid to want DWilliams
     
  13. No Chance

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    I wonder if D-Will would give the leadership that J Terry is giving , and D -Will salary scares the hell out of me.

    Just cannot see trading Ariza for any reason. To much value for the money.
     
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    He may want him per cyberx. I doubt if he will go through with it.
     
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    >Ariza by himself, is more valuable to us than D-Will. TRUE.
    >If Morey makes such a decision he will lose the respect of the TEAM.

    Thanks for the info cyb, but I'm not buying. Now if this portends a 3-way deal then perhaps there might be some fire to this smog er smoke?
     
  16. xiki

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    Actually, I've been wondering if we're at a great 'sell JET high' time?
     
  17. xiki

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    Even if this were workable, which of course it is not, how can an NBA team possibly, realistically fit 18 players into 15 slots in season?
     
  18. cyberx

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    Trade trade trade...

    Morey has called about his availability in the past. Could happen again.
     
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    Seriously. The man is 37 years old. I love how great he's been playing for us, and he's been a HUGE reason behind the Rockets success as of late, but you have to wonder if he can keep this up for the entire season. Once the Rockets get their depth back, perhaps exploring a trade for Terry is what Morey is thinking of doing. December 15 can't get here fast enough.
     
  20. desi tmac91

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    So is it just PG now? Does Motiejunas have Morey convinced?
     
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