That steak fajita salad I ate must have some ignore chemical in it because I'm now in ignore mood. 58 posts and coming on with the "douchebaggery" speech. Cya! Second on ignore for the day.
Simple questions lol. Why are you being so sensitive? It's not like I put you on blast like a contibiting all star highly respected Mr. J.R did.
"exact revenge on all these posters" - Sorry I can't quit laughing. SMH Still laughing. Can't stop. Still SMH. "exact revenge on all these posters" - ROFL Sorry I can't stop. True. I wished they'd just go and quit coming. Actually I avoid most of the crap. I do speak out on issues that are important to me. Running off insiders is VERY IMPORTANT TO ME! So I am speaking out and I am flinging back crap at those that are flinging crap at the insiders. They have no respect and no idea the history of this board. And I hate it that they get away with running off insiders. Actually it's not how this board has "been" since the beginning. Guys like Doc and Pops used to have over 50% support here. The "outsiders" were the ones that were piled on top of and squelched. It's not like that anymore. The reason is mostly because the mods don't have time to stay in here all day and referee all the rif raf. They've told me so. They simply don't have the time to moderate the board and we've been swamped with posters that are a lot of kids/teenagers or bandwagon fans like the LOFs or other semi-fans that don't know their head from a hole in the ground about basketball and have no respect or decorum. Sometimes when it's an important issue like running off insiders I'm going to take a stand over it. And that's why I throw out stuff like the subscription idea because it's actually a good idea to eliminate the rif raf that aren't real true fans. That's why I work over guys about not being contributing members. C'mon. I think all you gotta do is fork up a measly $5 to get contributing member status. I don't know the exact figure but I know it's low because when I originally became a contributing member well over 10 years ago I made a very small contribution. We're talking about one measly contribution here to get contributing member status. And there's no way that that measly contribution covers all the posts that some of these individual non-contributing members make. Not to mention putting up with all their grand-standing and disrespect, etc. And no if you charge a subscription fee people won't continue to muck it up. They're not going to pay money to get banned. And on top of all that ...... posters want to ignore the mod????????????? Yep....I'll speak up about things that are important to me. DON'T YOU?
You're seriously only hurting your cause, because you keep coming off like a douche in every post. You attack every poster instead of their message. You attack them for not contributing. I'm sorry, but this was created as a FREE site. If/whenever Clutch decides he wants to restrict membership or charge, HE will decide. Until then, they are free to post their opinions, and their skepticism. That's THEIR prerogative. Insiders shouldn't be so damn sensitive. Yes, it gets annoying when people doubt you and you're being serious, but Jesus, what are we? 7 years old? IGNORE the doubters. Those of us who are willing to listen will engage politely and with hopeful optimism that your/anyone else's info is legit. I find it very disturbing that you are trying to drive people away because you don't agree with their positions/opinions. I didn't know about this site till 2005ish, I'm sorry for not learning about something I had no idea existed for 6 years after it's creation (although wasn't it another site prior to 99?). It's like when people say respect me, I'm older. Um, I can't help that you were born before I, but your age does not determine the level of respect you deserve. Nor should the number of posts/join date determine your level of worth in a forum full of all Rockets lovers + a few randos and trolls. If we wanted to pay for inside information, we would subscribe to ESPN Insider. The insider info is interesting, but it isn't at all what this website is about. You seem to have forgotten that.
Hurting the cause, eh??? You can't be serious. Posters have already run off multiple insiders. There's simply NO WAY to hurt the cause when that has happened. No way. No I don't. A broad brush accusation that simply doesn't fit. You've read every one of over 5,600 posts I've made and come to this conclusion? Once again not true. I have brought up contributing member status the last couple days, yes. But I don't harp on it day after day. It's been months maybe even over a year since I've brought up contributions. And I brought up contributions in light of non-contributing members running off contributing members who are insiders. That's ridiculous. It shouldn't be allowed. And I'm going to keep pointing it out when insiders are dumped on. By the way, let me tell you a short story. I was a non-contributing member here at one time. And I was conversing with the big boys on this site, giving them grief when I was new to this board years ago. I was a Rockets fan but I knew nothing about the CBA, knew very little about the trade rules, etc., and I didn't know the history of the board before I arrived. And I kept proposing all sorts of crap that wouldn't fly and arguing with insiders like Doc and ace members like Bima. Finally one day a poster pointed out 3 things to me: 1. I was a non-contributing member and ignorant of the CBA, and; 2. I was arguing with contributing members who were experts on the CBA and 3. I had no idea the history of this board and who was who. It got me to thinking. And they were right. I was being very stupid. They didn't tell me I was being stupid. I figured out how stupid I was being. So I did 3 things: 1. I became a contributing member; and 2. I learned the CBA and quit making dumb trade proposals that would not work; and 3. I started studying the history of this board by clicking on long-time posters names and reading their posts from way back when they started. And from there I started being able to have decent conversations with other contributing members whom I respect here who to this day still know more than I do about certain NBA subjects. And I gained a greater knowledge about how the business side of the NBA worked. I was and still am a good talent evaluator. But I learned a lot about the business side of the NBA by coming here and being told what to do, what to read, what to study, and finally learning how to ask the right questions that generated good discussions with a few of the truly great members here. So.....what I believe is.........if a poster is really serious about the Rockets, the NBA, and this message board and he/she really values the resources that are here....they'll put some skin in the game...just a little meat on the table man OR ......... they'll AT LEAST consider and be respectful of other contributing members who have been here much longer and contributing way more content for way longer than they have. AT LEAST 1 of those 2 things should be there for non-contributing members that come here and participate. But when NEITHER factor is present??? That's a killer baby, a killer. And then they ignore the mods and run off the insiders on top of that??? That's a quadruple no-no. It's just too much. So....I will get up on the horse and ride when it gets to that point. I'll point out a few things, nicely at first, and then progressively more strongly to get the point across. And I don't really care if I look like a douchebag in the process. If a non-contributing member with no respect and no post history that is running off insiders wants to point out my douchbaggery.....I just don't care. They mean nothing to me at that point. Hopefully that helps you understand me a little bit. And it is a free sight. Making a CONTRIBUTION doesn't mean it's not a free site. And it's my perogative to point out what they are doing and their (and your) non-contributing status. They aren't. Else they wouldn't even come here in the first place. Non-contributing members shouldn't be so sensitive. Ask your fellow non-contributing members how old they are. I'd guess the average of all of them is probably around 17. I'll ignore who I want to and address who I want to. Thank you very much. Ignore those of us that are pointing out non-contributing members. I find it very disturbing that you are worried about driving people away who have driven away insiders and who trash the board continually. Whatever dude. I have no idea why you are apologizing. What determines the level of respect you deserve is the level of respect you give to others. When you disrespect others and then we look and see you are a non-contributing member and you have 87 posts or something like that....it paints a certain picture. It would be ignorant of us to ignore those factors. And if you paid for ESPN insider you'd be wasting your money because they are manipulated. Nobody wants to pay for anything. Remember that. We'd get everything for free if we could. But free is cheap. When it's free to chop off someone's head it's easy to kick it around as a soccer ball. Because it's free. You can always go get another one. It's free. Have you ever heard the old saying, Put your money where your mouth is? It's true. Posters that want to come in here and rant and grind and hash on insiders should have to pay for that privilege. Otherwise they should just go.
First off, thanks for responding back in kind. I appreciate that my attempt to actually have a one on one conversation with you has spilled over to this thread. I guess if I knew you were such an immature person I would have just posted on here in the first place. I actually gave you the benefit of the doubt because I thought "Hey, maybe I got him figured out wrong. Lets see what his side of this whole situation is WITHOUT the static/noise/bs". BUUUUT I guess that was a failure on my part because I gave you more credit than you actually deserved. I actually didn't personally attack you anywhere in my message to you (as everyone can see) but I guess I shouldn't take this indirect swipe to heart either correct? And I, of course, recognize this. If you're going to have the same mods since 1999 I doubt the ship is going to stay afloat with the decorum and maturity we all hope it would have because a lot happens over a 15 year period. If one of the mods were in their early 20s back in 1999 I'm sure they're busy with family life and worried more about getting their kids to football practice than to sit around and moderate a forum. This is not taking a swipe at the mods because I hold them in high regard because if it weren't for them early on, this place would have easily been a bigger realgm.net board. I can respect that you're taking a stand and defending the insiders but why are you resorting to the same low-brow attacks that posters use on the insiders? I don't know who said it (I believe it was either J.R. or Bimathug) but I agree with them with a paraphrase of what they had said about you: You're basketball knowledge is great and you bring some insightful stuff to the table but you sometimes approach the process of standing up for the right reasons in the wrong way. Like I said, that was a paraphrase but I'll go ahead and say that that's from me. Why, again, get so worked up and get hyped up about it? Plowman and CyberX for the most part dismiss the naysayers so why do you need to say anything back on their behalf? Batman Jones defended himself, was offended, and probably left for good. So now it's your place in Clutchfans to be the guy that stands on the soap box and say "THERE!!! SEE WHAT Y'ALL DID!!!!"? Any idiot worth his CF password can see that we, collectively, ran off each insider so why try to instigate and worsen the situation? Because all I can see is that by doing so, you're getting those that you criticize to respond in kind and then you start to throw your own version of a temper tantrum on here. So you think throwing money at a problem would fix it? You think only the most sensible and intelligent of posters have money for that? Sure it eliminates the NON-True/Hardcore Rockets fans but you're still going to get posters who will question, bash, and call other posters names. Throwing money at the situation by making it subscription based solves nothing. Know how I know? I used to be apart of car forums that were subscription based only and you still had issues. So who's going to police this monetized forum? Now you're telling me that a member is going to pay to be a part of a forum but has to temper his posts and monitor what he says because he can still be banned? What if the moderator didn't like YOUR views and YOUR posts and banned you for the things you've posted in the past couple of days. Would YOU be okay with that? My guess is no. Again, thanks for making fun/light of my attempt to reach out to you and talk to you about this. I thought sending you a private message with zero directed hostility and animosity would be a better way to understand where you're coming from but I guess I could have just answered my intrigue by rereading your posts in this thread.
First off, ignorance is not an excuse for not donating. At least "not feeling like it" is more honest. About insiders and how they should act....if I didn't give one **** what you or anyone on here thinks, then why should I go through the trouble of showing off what or who I know? Insiders and those pretending to do it like the attention, no doubt. Whether it's respect, admiration, or just a cool diversion, it's still attention. So it's dumb to tell insiders to ignore idiots and continue to expect some standard of an "ideal insider". You're getting this stuff for free and you have no skin involved in the whole exchange. At the end of the day, "growing up" or "being the better boring man" is not visiting these kind of forums. You come into an insider thread, and then reply about what you're expecting how an insider* should behave. Not the best way to understand context or logical consistency. *Not that I'm saying bbholic is or is not an insider, but that's where he's coming from and what you're working off of.
I'm usually not one to complain about the site and the mods, but I for the life of me can't figure out what is going on here. I had a post deleted this morning which was essentially there to ask folks to stop berating posters who aren't contributing members because their status level shouldn't matter, and then I come on tonight to see that now mods are calling posters douchebags(even though some people deserve to be called out), and the same usual suspects are allowed to continue to berate other posters non-stop. I will go on record to encourage EVERYONE to contribute to the tip jar. Its a great site that needs financial support to keep running, and keep out pop ups, cookies, and annoying add banners. However the point shouldn't have to get across by berating new posters, and filtering posts that hit soft spots like the tip jar fund. Anyways.... Carry on with the Rubio love fest/Jones hate fest/McHale hate fest/ Fake Insider status dick swinging etc.
Probably not my place, but I don't think it will be a problem if I tell you. Your post most likely wasn't deleted because of it's content, just know that and try to be ok with that answer. You're a good poster and I for one appreciate what you bring to the board.
You failed step 1. You want me to email you back and forth privately and dig for insider info from me and when I respond publicly you come back with this? I've got a good group of friends here that we email and direct message and we do it in a mature fashion that is satisfactory to all of us. I'm not about to start having private convos with you when you go on ranting about immaturity, etc. Not worth my time to respond further.
Wow. So you think my intent was to get your "insider" information? You're really are full of yourself if you think that.
BBHOLLIC respond to JR! STU DOGG is not the enemy of the insiders. Just because we cherish there information doesn't mean we should make them immune to criticism. And yes.. Plowman's handling of this whole situation has, clearly, made me a fan.
Dude basketballoholic stfu and gtfo You are single-handedly ruining the BBS for some of us. I'm coming here for inside info, so I give two ****s about your bantering. Stop dude.
This thread is like the whole world, disintegrating into madness. I just hope we can hold it together long enough to make it to the second round of the playoffs.
