Dear Rich Paul, One quick update in regards to your max contract demand. We're currently working on signing Zoran Dragic. Should sound familiar to you. He's the brother of our other point guard. The one that everyone thought could have been an all-star last year. What's been going on with you? Love, The Phoenix Suns
I'm going to go out on a limb and predict nothing important happens before the end of World Cup. There's not need to gamble on any chance of injury that may occur.
Sigh. Your entire theory is based on the premise that the NBA.com Transactions page does not contain various Rockets free agent signings. Despite the overwhelming evidence that all these signings are official (other than Papanikolaou, for reasons that have been explained to you repeatedly), you choose to hang your hat on the All-Powerful NBA.com Transaction page. Such overwhelming evidence includes the following official stories from Rockets.com, which is directly connected with NBA.com: Troy Daniels signing: http://www.nba.com/rockets/news/rockets-re-sign-troy-daniels Ish Smith, Joey Dorsey and Jeff Adrien signings: http://www.nba.com/rockets/news/rockets-add-depth-roster-signings Francisco Garcia signing: http://www.nba.com/rockets/news/rockets-re-sign-francisco-garcia Tarik Black signing: http://www.nba.com/rockets/news/rockets-sign-tarik-black See those first few letters of every link? They read "NBA.com". You know, the same exact website you claim is the one true source of all things NBA that have officially happened or not. But it is clear that these articles--put out by the team itself, something it never does until a transaction is official--are not enough to convince you. So, let's instead take a look back at the all-knowing NBA.com Transactions page. As you've repeatedly stated, the latest Rockets-related transaction shown on the NBA.com Transactions page is the Omer Asik trade, in which the Rockets acquired, among other assets, Alonzo Gee and Scotty Hopson. So, since the NBA.com Transactions page (according to you) lists all "official" transactions, I decided to confirm that the trades of Gee and Hopson TO New Orleans were also listed. Do you know what I discovered? None of the following trades--each of which MUST have been completed in order for the Asik trade to be possible--were shown on the NBA.com Transactions page: (1) the trade of Gee from Cleveland to New Orleans; (2) the trade of Hopson from Cleveland to Charlotte; or (3) the trade of Hopson from Charlotte to New Orleans. Then I looked at all New Orleans Pelicans transactions on that page. Other than the Asik trade, there was nothing since APRIL. So, based on the overwhelming evidence, I have come to the following conclusion (as have most people with much common sense and the wherewithal to spend even one minute double-checking their theory): The NBA.com Transactions page is a grossly incomplete and not very well-maintained depository of NBA transactions and is not to be counted on as the "be-all, end-all" source of what has happened and what has not happened in the NBA. If this is not enough to convince you (as I already told you that the NBA.com Transactions page does not always have every transaction listed, which information you decided to ignore), then I believe we have nothing more to discuss on this particular matter.
I apologize for the curt tone of my post above, but I get tired sometimes of having to explain something so basic--and which can be easily verified on one's own--when trying to debunk incorrect theories. Seriously, though, I like basketballholic and find him to be one of the better posters on this BBS . . . usually. No offense to the majority of posters (whose posts I have neither the time nor the inclination to read), but given the knowledge that basketballholic brings to the BBS, I tend to read more of his stuff than most others. That, combined with the fact that many others may assume that his theories are correct because he possesses such good knowledge of CBA intricacies, is why I tend to be "rougher" on him. It's probably not fair to him, I realize that. People, please don't use my post as another opportunity to pile on basketballholic, who really is an asset to the BBS. Maybe just take some of his theories with a few grains of salt.
The thing that I find funny is that people have spent what looks like a ton of time and research on the (when is the player signed) argument, when the root of the argument comes from something as ridiculous as suggesting that Morey is looking to trade Kostas Papanikolaou ASAP. Some people just cannot, or will not accept the fact that this is the team that Morey is looking to bring to camp and play the first few months of the season with. I think its possible that Morey could still look at doing something small with the Terry contract (like a Terry 5.8 mil for M. Thornton 8.5mil & a 2nd rounder) before the season starts for a slightly bigger contract, but to me, its obvious that any big huge moves are not going to something in the works until Dec to Feb at the earliest when players start actually coming available. Even then, its hard to see right now which teams are going to become sellers mid-season since everyone thinks they are a playoff team right now in September. Right now in the Summer is typically one of the worst times of the year to get a real on the court value basketball player in trade. You have to wait for teams that are a disappointment to realize they aren't where they want to be in order to move that player, and you pretty much always have to wait for players who were newly signed this Summer to come available in trades to make combining salaries much easier in deals. Its much to do about nothing, but I guess people get addicted to trades in this fantasy GM generation we are in. Morey is a GM that doesn't really help that cause much at all though I do have to admit.
Yep everyone just in denial and throwing crap against the wall hoping it sticks. The team that here now is the team that will be on the court the first game of the regular season
It is the easiest scenario and most likely. But Morey isn't the sit-back-and-be-content type. Especially after getting Boshed. If Morey can grab a player he wants now and swallow the idea of paying him, then he'll do it. If not, yes, he'll bide his time. Morey went this route last year. I believe he thought he could nab an unhappy LaMarcus Aldridge ("Man, I'd love to play for Houston!") using Omer Asik and Whatever for bait. Of course we saw how this didn't work out (although patience paid off with a decent draft pick). But some summers have bigger yields. We won't get another Harden, to be sure. Doesn't mean Morey isn't chumming the waters right now. Says yet another poster with a crystal ball.
BIMA laying down the LAW!!! Don't bring a banana to a gunfight with the THUG. Look for Plowman riding from the East. Very soon. Think of Gandalf in LOTR: Two Towers.
It's largely because of the 'insiders' claiming that big news will go down, especially when timelines and such are thrown around.
Despite the aggressiveness, Morey has shown to be one of the more patient GM's in the business. If it was most GM's, Omer would have been a Boston Celtic last December, and they probably would have been out of the running for Melo/Bosh this Summer because they traded for Ilyasova or Thad Young last year and their salaries weren't able to be moved along with Lin, Omer, etc. I'm not sure I follow what you are getting at with "swallow the idea of paying him". Please elaborate what you mean by that. Do you mean as a free agent? What free agency $ do they have left? Absorbing $ in a trade? I don't see where you are going at there. Just shows how difficult it is to make the "big move" that posters on here think is so easy to make with the assets that the Rockets have that are routinely overvalued on here & how quickly things can change in the NBA. I for sure thought LMA was going to be a free agent this next Summer the Rockets could prepare a landing spot for.... that changed quickly. However (back to being Bosh-ed) as an example, is there anyone on here that actually thinks Chris Bosh will not be available in trades in the upcoming future. This wreaks of Brooklyn/D-Will 2.0, and Atlanta/Joe Johnson all over again. I'm not saying Morey is going to trade for Bosh in the near future. That's not it at all. But what I am saying is that teams often overpay big names in the Summer out of desperation, and those players very rarely live up to their contracts. The question isn't can Morey get them, its does Morey want them. Oh, and by the way, Eric Bledsoe (had he been offered a max contract) could have very easily been Eric Gordon 2.0. Fans are right that Morey is going to make moves in the future (about as certain as death and taxes), but what they are almost always wrong about are the types of moves he's actually going to make. It aint Eric Bledsoe(the Suns have no reason to trade him), and it sure isn't someone like Ersan Ilyasova (maybe next year when he's got a team open the year after). Morey makes moves, but he doesn't make the moves 90% of CF's want or think he's going to make because most of the time, those are the equivalent of making moves for the sake of making them.
My understanding of nba.com is the nba approves trades and signings once they are complete and then they post them on nba.com. Yes, I do have the understanding that once transactions are completed through the league office that info is sent to nba.com and it is posted. Meaning, I have the understanding that nba.com is a complete list of completed transactions that have come through the league office. Just because there are other trades that are not reported there and other signings that aren't reported there (Stuckey/Indy) doesn't mean that I'm incorrect. I've sent an email to the league asking for clarification on this matter. You still did not answer........have the physicals been done? The physical are supposed to be done within 3 days of the contract being official, Bima. Have the physicals been done? No need to apologize over a difference of opinion/belief right now. We have a different understanding of how nba.com works. My understanding is it is a direct pipeline from the league office. And if that is correct, then there is no way that they are going to sit there for over 6 weeks not posting transactions that are completed. No way. Once again, I've sent an email to the league. If I get a response (almost always do) I'll post it here. EDIT: By the way...I think I can explain every transaction that has not been posted on nba.com. Not going to take the time to do it here but the Gee/Hopson/Haywood transaction and others I believe are explainable. They'll all wind up on nba.com at some point.
