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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Two Sandwiches, Jul 11, 2014.

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  1. The Cat

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    This is almost as comical as some of your posts in the Texans forum.

    That's exactly the point. Without Bosh, they likely aren't a playoff team. They probably sink into the cellar, which ironically, would've been a better course for them than the one they're on now. Sure, they'll make the playoffs -- but there's no real avenue for them to jump to contention and they're stuck on the infamous mediocrity treadmill. But Pat Riley is too proud to walk away on a tank job, so he desperately flung absurd $$$ at Bosh to be his best player.

    And as for how that's different from Houston, the Rockets would've been paying Bosh less money ($19 or so per season) to be the 3rd wheel, not over $20 to be the best player. Common sense.

    He was never coming? :rolleyes: Unless you think Daryl Morey is a complete idiot, this is completely baseless. The Rockets were the only other team Bosh and his team negotiated with, despite multiple outside feelers. Despite being in Sri Lanka and Ghana, he spoke directly to Morey, McHale and others and actually negotiated a paycut so the Rockets could keep additional players. The Rockets were confident enough in the deal to move Lin and clear the deck for other moves. The only argument anyone could make (and it's a dumb one) is that Bosh was using the Rockets as financial leverage against Miami, but if that's the case, why not pick Denver or the Lakers, who could offer the max?

    Bosh absolutely was coming, but the 5th year, full max offer from Miami at the last minute changed the game. Not sure how anyone can argue otherwise.
     
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  2. Kruze10

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    It's desperate when you consider the chances of them actually winning a title. No team will win a championship if their number 1 option is Chris Bosh. He's a great player but he will waste the last years of his career playing for a non contender while Wade is in and out of the lineup. They got some nice additions but there is no way in hell will they'll do anything but go as far as the 1st or 2nd round.
     
  3. HR Dept

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    IMO, that's exactly why he'd be great here. I'd be willing to bet that bringing Rondo in would cause Harden's usage to go down, and his efficiency to go up. He'd still get his touches, his FG attempts per game wouldn't change, and he'd still have the ability to take over the game offensively when need be. And Dwight would feast off of Rondo's ability to penetrate the lane and draw attention. Difference being that Rondo would cause these things to happen within a natural flow. The ball wouldn't become 'sticky'.

    Harden's game wouldn't match well with another ball dominate scorer, but EVERYONE'S game matches well with a ball dominate distributer. And that's what Rondo is. He's the perfect PG for the Rocket's free flowing offense. Rondo's command of the offense would put both Harden and Howard in situations that take advantage of their elite skills.

    You'd see less Hardin iso-ball and Howard post ups. Conversely, Rondo would get the ball to James in spots for him to quickly attack the basket and/or break his man down to showcase that step back jumper. And Dwight would likely rip the rim off the basket on regular bases. His post ups would also more often be against a rotating defense.

    Rondo just makes sense. One less person jacking threes would be a good thing. And one more elite distributer and defender would be a GREAT thing.
     
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  4. sammy

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    The Heat will barely be a 500 team. 54 wins with Lebron. Ceiling is 43 wins.
     
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    they're probably not going to rest wade as much because there's no finals to save for. No idea what he's got left though.
     
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    Do i need the other guy too?
     
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  7. thething

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    My sources tell me that this is not true. He did NOT stay at holiday inn last night. This is all posturing by the holiday inn to get more business.

    Don't believe xtruroyaltyx! He has no sources.
     
  8. sammy

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    He'll see more doubles. So will Bosh. Lebron made it so easy for them.
     
  9. Pull_Up_3

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    Miami is gonna suck
     
  10. sammy

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    You want hungry players. I'm glad that Bosh didn't take the 88M from us. He's "comfortable" at age 30 about where he's at.
     
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    My sources at Marriott wouldn't GAF.
     
  12. SamCassell

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    Rondo's played 8 seasons. The Celtics' offensive efficiency over those 8 years: 29th, 12th, 5th, 13th, 17th, 24th, 20th, 27th. In their best years, these guys had 3 Hall of Famers around Rondo in Pierce, Garnett, and Allen, and yet they only made the top 10 in offense one time.

    Meanwhile, Houston's offense has finished 6th and 4th the last 2 years. You may not like the Rockets' offense, or Harden's eurostep isos, but the production has been excellent. We were 4th with 2 inconsistent offensive pieces in the lineup in Beverly & Jones!

    I think putting a non-shooter like Rondo on the team would hurt the offense, because he'd be a net negative whenever he didn't have the ball. His defenders would sag off to double Harden or Howard at any opportunity. Add that in to his injury troubles and I don't think you significantly help the team (given that Beverly is an all-world defensive player who can actually shoot).
     
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    Houston wouldn't have paid 27M$ to a 35-year old in 2019, that's the point. Miami will regret this signing by then.
     
  14. Remii

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    All the Rockets have been doing is making the playoffs and getting kicked out in the 1st round... What's your point :confused:

    And tanking hasn't necessarily proven to be the answer and a team like Miami will lose money if they tank because that's south beach and fans won't show up (same as in Houston and many other places) so have to put a product on the floor that will at least compete for the playoffs because championships in the NBA are very hard to come by. Point still remains if Bosh is worth a max contract to the Rockets it isn't a ridiculous notion that Bosh is worth a max contract to the Heat. And he might opt out of that contract after the 4th year if he wants to extend his career at a high pay.

    I wouldn't say he's a complete idiot :grin:
     
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    The cap is going up in two years and max contracts will be higher... So in 2019 that won't look as bad as it does now...
     
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    It's all Cuban's fault. He started the clock ticking before we wanted it.

    I wonder how firm the agreement was with Bosh? Firm enough to light the Lin deal, I guess.
     
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    Bosh never committed to Houston. He used Houston to get a max deal out of Miami.
     
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    Lin was gone one way or another. Morey wanted his salary off the books to pursue others, even if Bosh didn't work out.
     
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    The Bosh contract will be the Miami version of the Knicks contract for Amare...The Heat to save face with the public acted out of pure impulse. This impulse will help the Heat return to its glory days...as a cellar dweller in the East. Reality for the Heat organization will set in when net revenue drastically plummets this season.
     
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    I don't think he "used" Houston to get a max deal from Miami, I think Miami used LeBron as an excuse NOT to give him a max deal. But once LeBron was gone, they had no choice but to give him the max.
     
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