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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Two Sandwiches, Jul 11, 2014.

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  1. YOLO

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    to this day I still don't see how people complain about the rockets GM. yet theres a ton of horrible gm's out there handing out ridiculous contracts and tanking, all the while continuing to suck
     
  2. count_dough-ku

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    I think anyone who watched basketball knew Black was better than Dorsey. All you had to do was compare the two when they played at the beginning of last season.

    As for Bev, yes I give Morey props for finding him. But the bottom line is he is not a quality starting PG in the NBA. He's been forced into that position because we've lost or given away Brooks, Lowry, and Dragic and the only replacement we found was Lin who wound up being a disappointment(and a disaster in the playoffs).

    It's just my opinion, but I don't think Morey takes the PG position very seriously on this team. I think he's been so spoiled the last 3 seasons by Harden's greatness(and having Parsons for 2 of those 3 years) that he's completely neglected the need for multiple playmakers on the roster and it's coming back to bite us in the ass.

    Again, yes there's time to go get someone. But we're quickly reaching the point where just like last February, we're at the mercy of other teams and players. What if Denver wants too much(i.e. D-Mo and/or Capela) for Lawson? What if Phoenix is serious about not dealing Bledsoe? What if Ainge won't part with any of his players? What if the Kings decide to hang onto Collison?
     
  3. Rocketsmanhk

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Free agent Donald Sloan in ongoing discussions with the Spurs, Bulls and Mavs on potential deal as reserve PG, league sources tell RealGM.</p>&mdash; Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/619162827777929216">July 9, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  4. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    He's a low-end 3rd string PG.
     
  5. t0mdotcom

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    Cuban and Broussard going at it on twitter.
     
  6. rullrich

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    I wouldn't argue that he's flawless - but I struggle to think of another GM that is so significantly better than him to justify all the rage. All of those moves you mention were calculated risks that didn't pan out.

    Fact is that his successes outweigh his failures - not every move is made to assemble a championship team tomorrow but allow him to make a trade for Harden, to sign a player like Dwight, and to have the flexibility to chase Durant next summer knowing that we've got a legitimate shot to do so.

    If a 2 year deal for Dorsey and losing a bench player in Tarik Black so we could sign Josh Smith, a package worthy contract in Papa, and a desire to maintain cap flexibility by leaving a 19 year old foreign prospect overseas for a season are his failures I'll take that any day over the dumpster fire front offices that exist in half of the league right now.
     
  7. BigShasta

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    :grin:

    DJ's boy
     
  8. dobro1229

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    What do you REALLY want them to do on July 1st then other than make a blockbuster trade or signing?

    When that doesn't happen, what's the next step for you to have a successful offseason? Is resigning Terry, KJ, and Smith early really that smart? Why would you pay above market value, and not be patient to get the RIGHT CONTRACT VALUE for these guys rather than jump the gun?

    The PG market was dried up to begin with. We all knew that. Jackson was a project longshot they could have gambled on but Detroit would have matched obviously. There was never really much there that was a difference maker unless you are one of those posters that has convinced himself that guys like Stuckey are the ultimate answer to push this team to title contention.

    All I'll say about teams that make the most moves in July is this -

    -July winners -

    -2014/15- Mavericks - signed Parsons, re-signed Dirk for cheap, traded for Chandler
    -2013/14 Nets - traded for Pierce and Garnett. Newly traded for Joe Johnson
    -2012/13 Lakers - Traded for Dwight, signed Nash, etc.

    Making big moves in July IMO seems to be pretty overrated over the course of recent history. If there is any lesson we can learn over this past is that we should NOT overreact on July 9th.... ESPECIALLY when a team that just made it to the Western Conference Finals DID NOT LOSE anyone in free agency or trades just yet. There is something to be said about stability & patience.
     
  9. malakas

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    Interesting that the Cavs contract is still not traded. Lookslike the Clippers will think a lot of trading Crawford now that dj is back and Billy King won't trade them Joe Johnson because it will mean he will likely lose his job (finally).
    This and Josh Smith and Kj is the most interesting thing to see for me in the following days.
     
  10. t0mdotcom

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    Crawford would be a nice piece for the Rockets. One year rental too. Gives you some scoring off the bench.
     
  11. malakas

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    He crossed one line too many with his lies. I hope ESPN fires him. They did fire Simmons because he wasn't political correct. Why not fire a useless liar like Broussard too?
     
  12. PersianRocket

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    I thought Simmons quit?
     
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    no. they didn't renew his contract and didn't even go far in negotiations and just announced they will let him go months before his contract was up. So in essence they fired him.
     
  15. FTW Rockets FTW

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    I've already told you guys the two things that don't matter to Morey are Coaching and PG

    He'd rather have a ton of PF's (undersized in the past) than a competent starting caliber PG
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Don't look for Mavs to jump into Enes Kanter bidding now. All indications are they'll take a step back and move patiently</p>&mdash; Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/619165623935893505">July 9, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  17. t0mdotcom

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    #Dirk2Houston
     
  18. count_dough-ku

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    I've said many times I wasn't interested in a blockbuster trade or signing. If Aldridge really wanted to come here and it cost Ariza, so be it. But other than that, there was no one out there(realistically speaking) that interested me, including Kevin Love.

    Obviously you don't wanna overpay for your free agents. But you also don't wanna lose them. We resigned Brewer and Bev. Great. But Smith is still unsigned. I get that the Rockets' hands are tied somewhat, but at some point this situation needs to be resolved. Otherwise we're sitting here waiting on Smith while possible replacements are committing elsewhere. Terry is less important(at least on the court), although with Bev as the only PG on the roster at the moment, we probably do need to hang onto him.

    I disagree about the PG market being dried up. Maybe we couldn't afford Stuckey or Joseph unless there were S&T possibilities or they would've come here for the full MLE, but there have been other PGs picked up by teams in the last 8 days. The question is what are the Rockets after? A starting PG? If that's the case, then yes the market is pretty dry. They'd have to look to trade for one, but who's even available? We keep being told Lawson, but I have yet to hear of any rumored deal with any team. Same goes for Collison or Lowry or Bledsoe(Phoenix swears they're hanging onto him). If it's a backup PG, then why didn't the Rockets make a play for McCallum? Why not try to get Mario Chalmers? Or hell, even Aaron Brooks before he resigned in Chicago?

    I just don't think my expectations were that unrealistic. Resigning our free agents and picking up even just a backup PG. Is that really asking too much? And yes, Morey can still do all that, but he's dragging his feet compared to his rival GMs in the West.
     
  19. malakas

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    damnit. This would bind their money for 72 hours so they couldn't give an offersheet with poisonl pill to KJ and maybe we could sign Smith on the cheap in the meanwhile AND would have forced OKC to fully max him. Dissapoint.
     
  20. Rox>Mavs

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    smart, there's nothing they can do with cap space now that they can't do later in the off season. No point in making a move fresh off the emojipocolypse.....
     
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