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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Two Sandwiches, Jul 11, 2014.

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  1. basketballholic

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    Didn't say the Spurs would do it. But....it is a classic Spurs under-the-table move.

    Goran's problem is not playing SG. Goran's problem is NOT getting to run the point enough. They're playing him at SF in Phoenix. He very rarely gets minutes at the top running the team.

    The difference between Houston (and San Antonio) and PHX is he would never play a single SF minute here. He'd play all his minutes up top and he'd get all the minutes running the team when Harden sat plus sharing possessions with Harden when Harden is on the floor and needs a blow.

    Be realistic.
     
  2. Aleron

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    If the lakers offered that, there's literally nothing on our roster besides Harden and Howard that could top it, because it would move the pick the lakers owe phoenix out of the protected top 5 range and basically gift them a top 6-7 pick.

    Which is why the lakers will never make that trade, they would be giving up a top 3-5 pick on their end as well.

    The reason the lakers leaked they're willing to offer a max contract is to scare trade suitors off, they want him to stay in phoenix and go into free agency.
     
  3. saleem

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    What is the protection on the Rockets pick sent along with Lin?
     
  4. malakas

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    There is a almost universal law of what UFA and RFA tell to the press. It usually goes like : I am more focused to my team and haven'teven thought about FA and I'm happy here and my number one priority is winning (if they are in winning teams )and be happy.
    All PR crap.
    Dragic however heard his agent and said the obvious : I will give everyone an equal chance. Everyone? Even the dumpster fire of the Lakers and Knicks?
    Yup.
    So for Dragic => $$$$$$$$$

    You see Rondo wasn't like that. Rondo went straight to the media and said hell no to Sacramento I'm not signing there.
    THAT drops trade value.
    What Dragic is doing right now actually RAISES the value of his bird rights.
    Every team no matter how back in the standings it is or how tiny market they know if they pay they have a chance. And IF they get his bird rights they have the BEST chance.
     
  5. Aleron

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    You said the Spurs, the Spurs have Parker, Ginobili and Mills/Joseph with the ball, Goran would see even less of it than he does in Phoenix. Replacing a good wing defender and a great catch and shoot guy (who fits perfectly) for an uncertain expiring that doesn't fit is about as unspurs as you could possibly get short of suggesting they trade Duncan.
     
  6. sabesque

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    But, are the Lakers, who are currently in Frank the Tank mode, willing to give up Hill for Gogi's bird rights? Why trade one of their few decent players when they can just go after him on the offseason?
     
  7. basketballholic

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    If the Spurs traded for Goran they would give him the ball ahead of everybody but Parker.

    Be realistic.
     
  8. Aleron

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    Of course not, if they sacrificed that draft pick, it would be the dumbest move they've ever made, and the calls for Buss' head would reach apocalyptic.
     
  9. malakas

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    Wrong there is. DMO + NOP pick.
    The Suns canl get the Laker's pick next year as well and next year it is only top 3 protected.

    You underestimate the desperation of a spoiled delusional team like the Lakers who suddendly find themselves on the bottom of the barel and no respectful FA wanting to sign there.
    Take a look again in the FA class and tell me who will go and sign there. Most of the RFA will be matched.
    Monroe?
     
  10. Aleron

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    No, they really wouldn't, that team is built upon years of chemistry, they're not sacrificing that competitive advantage to satiate your bizarre trade scenarios, especially in what is likely Duncan's last year
     
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    Spurs can lure Gogi in the offseason..
     
  12. malakas

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    There is a reason Leonard wasn't extended already to his max.
    The Spurs will be buying this summer and buying high.
    But their target will be LMA or Millsap imo.
     
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    The question at hand was about the market for Dragic, not my bizarre trade scenarios. Spurs trades come straight out of left field and smack everybody in the mouth and they're done and over with before any of us know about it. Goran would fit into Spurs culture great. And if they traded for him they'd plug him into the starting lineup with Parker and he'd run the team when Parker sat. Manu would still get his touches. They'd simply be a better team by having another attacking playmaker that is pretty much a cross between Parker and Manu.

    I'm not predicting anything here. I'm just saying the trade market for Rondo does not dictate the trade market for Goran. There are very possibly teams who would like to have Goran (and can put together a nice little stash of assets) who were not interested in Rondo.
     
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    Whoa, let's not get carried away!...;)
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    stop littering useless posts about the Spurs. they don't pick up big names, they draft players to their system and maximize their efficiency while not paying big bucks for players.
     
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    Wth are we talking about the Spurs for? Lol this is a Rockets forum!! Who cares about how Dragic would fit with the Spurs!!
     
  17. basketballholic

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    The Spurs strike just when you think they won't.
     
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    I think the Spurs have enough to worry about this summer with most of their current players being free agents, especially Kawhi. Someone is gonna throw crazy money at him, so San Antonio will have to shell out to avoid losing the guy. Danny Green's due for a raise too. He's only making 4 mil this season.
     
  19. justtxyank

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    People please.

    Just let bballholic post his scenarios and don't respond to them. There's no need to constant,y get two plus pages of back and forth with him over his theories.
     
  20. basketballholic

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    Spurs aren't worried about Kawhi except his health. They love the kid. They're gonna give him his money. And if they traded for Goran....they don't need Danny Green. He'd be a salary matching piece to get Goran.
     
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