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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Two Sandwiches, Jul 11, 2014.

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  1. tmacfor35

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    Dragic is in a peculiar position.

    he gets to decide his future now if he chooses.

    If he wants to go to Houston, he can and will before the deadline.
     
  2. t0mdotcom

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    Not sure if Morey would give up the NOP pick for Dragic. The NYK's second rounder is extremely valuable right now.

    T Jones, Shved, NYK 2nd rounder for Dragic and Plumlee
     
  3. t0mdotcom

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    Meant to add K Pap for salary matching
     
  4. roxallways

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    Just ready for trade deadline to come and go so we can see what team we have for the stretch run.
     
  5. Da_Spark

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    If he can trade a 1st rounder for T-Will, i'm pretty sure he will for Dragic.
     
  6. saleem

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    He may want to do that, but the Suns management can trade him to another team, or they may ask the Rockets for more assets than they are willing to give them.
     
  7. tmacfor35

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    Dragic could very well tell them, I am not coming back to this team.

    He is under utilized and is currently underperforming.

    I wouldn't say he is a Max Player at the moment. He was last year at this time, so maybe it is time to "come back home"(Codman) and get over paid by Morey with his bird rights.
     
  8. YaoMing#1

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    I'm actually coming to the belief that the rockets may be holding up a deal for the dragon. I think Houston knows dragic is leaving the Suns know it too, the Suns also know that their not going to make the playoffs. Their front office isn't stupid, I think a deal for tj and fillers is what Morey is offering I think he wants to keep that pick.

    If the Suns got jones and the pels pick that would be great great value for dragon considering he's on an expiring contract. The Suns need front court inside scoring and playmaking and that's what tjones can provide for them, he young like their core, agile and athletic for a big can run the floor with and with out the ball and finish around the hoop and on pick and rolls. Sounds like the perfect trade for both teams.

    Let's hope it can come true.

    Dragon/bev
    Harden/brew
    Ariza/brew
    Dmo/smith
    Howard/smith /Dorsey

    That's a solid 8 man rotation with Dorsey getting spot minutes as the ninth guy who only plays when the bugs are in fouls trouble. That team is a contender, solid defense, and two elite playmaker/shot creators up top.
     
  9. count_dough-ku

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    Not exactly. He and his agent can try to scare off other teams from trading for him, but I don't see him doing that. He'll go wherever the Suns send him and if he's miserable there, he can go someplace else as a free agent this summer.

    That's not to say the Rockets aren't the best fit though. If he's looking to start for a contender(or near contender) that's badly in need of a point guard, I don't know any other team that fits the bill better than us.
     
  10. tmacfor35

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    Can Morey call his agent and facilitate a deal? I am under the impression that this is tampering, but I am sure Morey has already done this.
     
  11. Red Hova

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    What Kanter could be is the key piece of getting Goron to Houston with him maybe going to PHX. While that would not be easy to complete without say a Terrance Jones or the lottery pick in the deal to Utah, it may be what it takes to get the deal done. PHX may consider Kanter as good as a pick especially considering this draft. He's a young big who has offensive skills and can rebound.
     
  12. count_dough-ku

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    I always thought front offices could only talk to each other when negotiating a trade for a player currently under contract. I'm pretty sure Morey's allowed to talk to Dragic himself and find out if he's willing to sign an extension here, but he can't actually negotiate a new deal with him or his agent until he's officially traded. And even then, they can't put anything in writing(or have a secret handshake deal) til he's officially a free agent.

    That being said, I'm sure there's backchannel stuff that never gets released to the press or fans. If Dragic for example was rumored to be going to the Sixers and he had no desire to be there, I'm certain he and his agent could make it abundantly clear that Philly would be wasting their time and resources trading for him.

    Or he could really go to extremes and do what Derek Harper and Rony Seikaly did back in the late 90's when each was traded to Utah and refuse to report because they didn't wanna play in Salt Lake City. Assuming that's still allowed under the current CBA.
     
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    What if the Suns would rather have Dmo who would fit a more traditional post player? Seems like they have a glut of 4's.
     
  14. Verbal Christ

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    In the assumption it would be TJones to PHX
     
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    Hearing Toronto proposed a swap of Lou Williams for Dmo. DM declined.
     
  16. Fyreball

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    This is going to be the longest week ever. The looming trade deadline combined with no games is going to make this a brutal stretch.
     
  17. Pull_Up_3

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    Rightfully so

    DMO>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lou
     
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    Changing my signauture to add back in DWill. Almost as soon as I took him out yesterday I received information that a trade was still possible for DWill if Brooklyn relented and sent Plumlee with him or if they could somehow undo pick swap rights with ATL or BOS to be able to generate a fresh pick swap with us. So, I'm adding DWill back in as a trade target although I think it is much more likely that DWill gets bought out and signs here as a free agent after we help BKN dispose of Lopez by sending salaries to Philly for some of our picks.
     
  19. Nook

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    The situation is a little different than many people think.

    I keep hearing that Dragic won't sign with Phoenix. Based on track record, Dragic would sign for the Suns if they offer him the max. He was very close to McHale and left the Rockets over money. Dragic will have money be a huge factor in where he ends up.

    So lets assume he would resign with the Suns with their Bird rights.

    The real issue? Would the Suns resign him for max or near max money? The Suns are in the middle of rebuilding and already have sizeable salary alocation to two younger players in Bledsoe and Thomas. Bledsoe isn't going anywhere unless the Suns deal him in a package for an elite player. Thomas seemed like a good signing at the time, but there are reports teams are not expressing any interest in him.

    Dragic will be 30 years old. If you are a team in the middle of rebuilding, do you want to resign a 30 year old player to a 4-5 year contract? Any slip in the quality of his play could make his contract almost impossible to trade. Also signing Dragic greatly limits the Suns ability to trade for or sign an elite player on the market.

    The Suns have some decent assets, but if an elite player becomes available, they will be competing against teams like Boston, Denver and the Lakers. Will the Suns, as currently constructed have sufficient assets? Not if Boston decides to get involved.

    So, for the reasons outlined above, it is not likely that the Suns will ultimately resign Goran Dragic.

    So that leaves the Suns at a cross roads. They can keep him the rest of the season and try to get into the playoffs. The thought being another playoff run would be good for their young players and may make their team more appealing to future free agents. The more likely scenario? The Suns see what assets they can get for Dragic. If they can get future considerations or a young piece to build around, that may be enough to get him moved.

    People that think that the Rockets can get Dragic for little are probably wrong. There are other teams that want Dragic for either the playoff run OR for the Bird rights. A team like the Pacers has an interest in Dragic. They may well think they can get out of the East next year with George/Dragic/Hibbert. There are other teams that could make offers such as Sacramento, New Orleans and others. Remember, most likely Dragic will resign where ever he ends up if he gets the max.

    A variety of possibilities exist. I have siblings that work for the Rockets and one that works for a local media outlet. The name that I have heard is most in demand on the Rockets is Trevor Ariza. A number of teams want a swing 3 that can defend and hit 3's and his contract is viewed as a plus. The Rockets also have other assets discussed. The point being that it is possible that the Rockets make an effort to get Dragic without losing DMO, or IF they lose DMO, it is a 3 team deal that nets the Rockets Dragic and a productive PF such as Gibson or a big like Kanter or Wright.
     
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  20. jump shooter

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    But if you trade DMO for Dragic, are the rockets a much better team now?
     
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