I said that I didn't know about the beef between Lowry and Dragic so no need to attack me. I have not the knowledge about the behind the scenes of Rockets history as some others here. Knight is shorter and so Dragic would be better fit for the constant rotations aggresive defensive scheme that Kidd uses. It's possible to sign him with the huge capspace if Bucks trade Knight. Plus he won't be that much cheaper than Dragic. Not a good scenario imo but it is possible. Deng is having a downseason and will like to raise his value before opting out and testing free agency imo.
Detroit's pick won't be lottery with Dragic, hell it might not even be lottery as is, the two teams in front of them aren't by far, and they've both got some serious injury issues. One of the great advantages of someone else's draft pick is that team doesn't get better when you trade a player for it.
Oh yeah you are right(even though without him they will be lottery) but I still think that 15+KCP> 14th Remember that if Suns get the NOP pick by trading Dragic that is in its own way bad asset management because they are devaluing their own asset-making their team weaker and NOP passing them quite possibly making the PO over them. In the end it's obvious to me that there are at least 3-4 teams or more that would trade for Dragic in a heartbeat if all it took was a 1st round pick of the late lottery and to be honest even if he didn't go ahead and said straight out he would resign they would give themselves the position of power to be the frontrunners in the Dragic FA hunt. That imo is more worthy of a late lottery pick in this draft on its own if it gives you the front seat in signing longterm such a great player. I don't know that if adding Jones would sway the Suns but I'm certain that the NOP wouldn't be enough.
lol malakas against the world..... Reaching here as well. Dragic saying he'll be open to meet with any team in FA doesn't mean he'll for sure resign in SAC if traded there. If anything it increases the risk of Dragic leaving in UFA since he's willing to meet with teams. That statement from dragic is purely a leverwge move to push PHX to move him or solve the pg glut. Dragic saying he's open to multiple teams in FA =/= he's likely to resign with a team like SAC. Btw your example with SAC not trading for rondo proves they are at least reasonable and wouldn't make a foolish deal without assurances.....which no teams have.
I don't want to be against the world. If you want to believe that the NOP pick would be enough that's fine by me just not set up yourselves for dissapointment. What Dragic said serves another purpose as well. It raises his next contract price. A team like LA and Knicks even in their illusions of grandieur have come to realise that just the bright lights won't be enough to attract top FA. By making a run of Dragic they will have to commit their money and lose other FA. Having Dragic coming out and saying this it means there will be more offers for him that will raise his price in FA. The Suns already lowballed Bledsoe and deterred other teams from making offers by leaking they will match. Dragic although not a RFA has learned from this and is determined to get PAID. Fact remains the team that has his bird rights can offer the most years. But Suns won't have the leverage to lower his price by that alone. His agent is a smart man not like Rich Paul. If he is trade to Sac or somewhere else the same thing. That team will be prepared to offer him the max. I think he will take the money.
Again Sacramento won't make the trade. They would have paid two max players and still not make the playoffs in the west.
Btw I don't think NOP pick by itself is enough. I think there aren't many teams that can beat or are willing to beat NOP + jones + KPap/Terry + Canaan/Capella.....including SAC
This I'll agree with. The NOP by itself won't do it. We'd have to find a third team with a player to seriously interest Phoenix, maybe even keep them in the hunt. I could see Dragic getting paid to stay and Bledsoe traded in the offseason for a lottery pick (and the cap space).
Rondo was real clear on NO re: signing long term with Sac. Dragic is really careful publicly to say he would sign with any team. Does he mean it? I just don't think so. The interesting thing to me is that the two 'flagship' NBA franchises have $$$ to burn in FA and a need need need at the 1. Who does each team want? Dragic? Knight? Rondo? Those two teams shrink the trade market. And DM the GM is not going after any major acquisition without a 'deal' in place before a transaction is called in to the League office. I'm not sold that 'reinforcements' aren't coming from buy-outs and/or returning CBAers.
Enes Kanter and Houston's NOP 1st Rounder to Phoenix Goran Dragic to Houston Terrence Jones, Jason Terry and Miles Plumlee to Utah Fills everyone's need. Done deal. :grin:
FWIW, Rondo basically said up until the trade that he wants to build with the Celtics. I think Dragic already not saying the perfect PR line of "I want to stay and build with this young team" or "The offseason is the offseason. Right now we just want to make the playoffs" is pretty indicative that he's not particularly willing to re-sign. People are looking way too much into Phoenix’s angle here. 90% of whether Dragic will or will not be traded depends on Dragic and not the team. The team’s only role is whether they’re willing to risk losing him for nothing in order to make what is likely a 1st round beatdown by Warriors or Grizzlies.
Wait, are you the Bucks fan? Otherwise your statements don't make sense. This is only about 3 years ago when the whole Lowry/Dragic thing happened.
The hit squad going all in on Malakas. Lol dude quit while you're ahead. We have some intelligent snipers in the GARM.
