Not sure why the Kings would offer those guys when Dragic is a flight risk on a non playoff team. Not sure why PHX would want two more guards when their problem is they have too many guards and need a scoring big man. Plus the pick the Kings can give is 2 years out in 2017. Could they covet that deal if the Kings were willing to offer it. Maybe but I don't think its head and shoulders better than what houston could offer. http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?p=9419459#post9419459
That's fine with me. If another team wants to go nuts to sign a player who is about to be 29 that could potentially be nothing more than a short term rental, why get in their way? We let the Lakers go crazy seeking Dwight didn't we?
Teams can be given allowance to speak to a pending UFA before they trade for him like Dallas did with Rondo. If a team speaks with Suns and Dragic tells him yes I will resign there are many teams that can give much more than the 14th pick in a bad draft that is only top heavy. Teams that would be interested depending on need only not considering their cap space ( don't have time to check but feel free to do it if you want) Miami Milwaukee Utah Kings LA Knicks Toronto All these teams besides the LA and Knicks have much better assets to offer than the NOP pick. Which btw WILL LOSE VALUE AS SOON AS DRAGIC IS TRADED.
About half or possibly even more than half of your list would have no hope whatsoever of keeping Dragic around past this season. How much are they going to give to have him for the rest of the season?
Definitely. Maclemore is a potential star. Do you think that Suns FO after they went ahead and signed IT would have any second thoughts about stealing McLemore just because they have a cheap midget signed in a cheap contract?
You make the assumption that Dragic is looking only for a contender and is interested in taking a big paycut in what is his last big contract. He himself has said the opposite.
If he's a potential star why would they give him up for Dragic who's UFA? That's like us giving Dmo up.....why would we do it?
He's said he wants to do what is best for his career and to me that says he wants to play on a contender, not some random scrub team. Who knows? Maybe all he cares about is money, if that's the case, maybe he'll waste the rest of his career in Phoenix, it's certainly what Chris Bosh and Carmelo Anthony chose to do. He has maybe 3 years left worth of prime if he's lucky, I'd bet he wants to win, not bad enough to sign for a small contract in Houston, but enough to where he's not going to sign in F'n Charlotte.
Why they fired Malone when he was the only coach that connected with their franchice player? Why they drafted Stauskas when they had McLemore? Why did they signed Rudy Gay when every team he left became tons better? ....
The freaking LOLcats are the seventh seed right now without Kemba. If they had Dragic they would be top 5. That's a PO team. (LOL) I believe Dragic when he says what is best for his carreer means : best contract + not have 1.0000 other guards to share the ball with.
Either way the Bobcats aren't a legit contender with Gogi, just first round fodder in a joke of a conference. I think we can seriously limit the number of teams that would even consider making big offers and then further limit it by those who need help at the deepest position in the NBA badly enough to want to give up anything for it. Dragic isn't a star and he's nearing the end of his prime, AND the Suns have no real choice but to get a deal done. Those factors make me think the market for him will be a lot less than you are thinking.
Miami - owes their 2015 pick to Philly unless it's top 10. So first pick they can trade is their 2017 pick. Heat players????? Nothing man. Milwaukee - They're going to the playoffs unless they fall apart. If they trade for Dragic, they're less likely to fall apart. So, their pick won't be as good as the NOP pick. Ok....so you want them to trade Knight (and other salary) for Dragic I suppose. Let's see Knight...not as good as Goran...getting ready to get paid himself....for Goran. Does that make sense for PHX? Utah - Utah is not a bastion for free agents. They typically LEAVE UTAH. Utah also has Trey Burke and Dante Exum waiting in the wings to run the point. They're not turning loose of their lottery pick for Dragic. Sorry, that's insane. Alec Burks? Mmmmmm, why would Utah trade a good up and coming shooting guard on a rookie contract that they control for a pending free agent that they have to pay megabucks to keep..who may walk away from them anyways? Mmmmmm, Kanter? Yeah, there's a possibility I suppose. But Dragic would not likely be interested in staying in Utah when he could move to a playoff team. And is Kanter better value for PHX than the Pels pick and a player? Kings - Yeah, I suppose Stauskas and an expiring contract (Derrick Williams) would be decent value to PHX for Goran. So Sacramento gonna talk to Goran on the phone, new ownership, just fired their coach, got a grumpy big man who demands the ball all the time, and they're not making the playoffs next season. Let's see....is Goran going to be interested in staying? Is he gonna commit to Mr. V on the telephone? C'mon man, let's be real here. LA - I'm assuming you're meaning the Lakers? They gonna hand PHX Julius Randle? Or are they going to give PHX their lottery pick? Are you kidding me? Knicks - You're joking aren't you? Seriously? You think the Knicks are gonna hand PHX their lottery pick?????? NOPE. Toronto - Let's see, they just committed $48 million to Lowry. You think they're gonna flip Lowry for Goran and then have to pay Goran 4/60 to be able to keep him? You think PHX wants to run Lowry out there alongside Bledsoe? Nope, nope, nope. Expirings and a pick? Pick isn't as good as the Pels pick. Sorry. Oh....Ross. Toronto is going to give up Terrence Ross to run 2 point guards in the back court? And run the risk of Goran walking on them? Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. any other teams malakas?
The value of the NOP pick is that rookie contracts are a ridiculously good value relative to all others in the league. Even if the draft is 7-10 players deep there is no guarantee that teams will take the best 7-10 guys in order. Talent always falls into the late lottery (Drummond, Klay Thompson, Steven Adams, Morris Twin, Kawhi, etc.). Phoenix actually has a pretty good draft history so I'm sure they would be confident in themselves to get a quality player even at #14. The other issue to consider in terms of what Phoenix can get for Dragic is that PG is probably the deepest position in the league. How many teams NEED a PG right now? 1) Miami 2) Indiana 3) Knicks 4) Lakers 5) Houston Thats pretty much it. Every other team either has a productive guy making significantly less than what Dragic will command this summer (Sac, Detroit, Denver, Cha) or is committed to seeing what they have in their young talent (Phi, Orl, Utah, Boston). What package could any of those 5 teams above put together in a trade? I don't see anything remotely appealing to Phoenix from the above. As I see it either Dragic stays with Phoenix or he gets traded to us. I don't think we have Phoenix over a barrel to where they HAVE to trade with us but looking at the potential suitors, we have the best collection of assets. Maybe we don't have exactly what they want but our assets (NOP pick, T.Jones, Capela, Papa, Shved, 2nd rounders, etc.) are definitely easily moveable should they identify a player they want to go after in the future.
