Rubio wouldn't change Harden's job nor effect his possessions. Only enhance them. He would take the load off Harden. With Rubio playing alongside Harden, Harden would get a ton of easy, easy looks. And then when Rubio sits, Harden can dominate the ball and run downhill against the opponents second tier group just like he's doing now against most team's starters, except running downhill against reserves means he'll be even more efficient. The only thing that would happen if we added Rubio next to Harden is our PPP would improve overall, Harden's efficiency would increase, and Harden would not suffer so much wear and tear. Look, I'm truly enjoying this season by Harden. Dude is flat magical. He's a one-man wrecking crew. But I'm telling you.....that won't work in the playoffs. Playoff defenses are going to choke down Harden's efficiency and we have nowhere else to turn for creators. Terry? Nope. If we aren't going to play Canaan then we need a playmaker. The guy you're describing that maxes out at 6-7 assists and 20 points....that guy is Canaan. But we ain't playing him. LOL. Well.....how's that working now? Like they don't play off him now? That's how good Rubio is with the basketball. They can play off him 15 feet. He's still going to penetrate and find guys for easy looks. He's still going to create havoc in the opponents backcourt with his length and defensive style. He's still going to generate a ton of opponent turnovers and bad shots. Only he'll be doing it with players like Harden/Dwight/Brewer/Josh Smith, etc. around him who can really finish and shoot it. As effective as Rubio is playing with a bunch of youngsters in Minny....don't tell me he wouldn't be even more effective playing next to superstars. That's nonsensical. He's already had much success. It's too late to say he isn't going to have success.
I agree that Rubio would be a good addition for us. I just think that it won't take us to the next level of being real contenders. I'm all for getting him don't get me wrong but it might have to be a trade for Rubio and someone else.
Rubio is a poor mans Rondo. I didnt like Rondo on the Rockets i damn sure wont like Rubio. Rubio changed Dallas's offense from all time great to meh. No thanks.
Rubio can do what Beverley does defensively and does more on offense. The offense runs through Harden being the dominant ball handler and when he sits the offense becomes stagnant. Everyone knows that. Rubio can create and with the players we have of Brewer, Ariza, DMo, Smith, Rubio will have a field day with assists.
Good point and I somewhat agree. That's why I prefer Rubio to Dragic. I'm afraid we're going to have to pay Dragic $16+ per season. If we acquired Rubio, we'd still be able to create near max space in 2016 (since cap is going to $80 million or more) while retaining Harden/Howard/DMo/Rubio while Dragic signed to a mega deal would hinder that possibility.
Bev is a little better defender and a WAY better shooter. Rubio's passing and playmaking obviously blows Bev's away. I just want someone who isnt an all time bad shooter at the point.
I'm kidding about blowing up the team. I'm not kidding about everybody being trash outside of Harden and Motiejunas this season.
"The Cat" retweeted a journalist that said Dragic is on the market and the Suns want a big that can shoot. Would Chicago consider something like: HOU In: Goran, Zoran PHX In: Mirotic, Shved CHI In: TJones, Papa, NOP 1st Probably not, since Chicago is trying to compete and Mirotic is their only big with range out to the 3 point line.
Yeah I think Chicago is also looking for a shooter, although probably a perimeter player. Here's something to play with: there are more than a few Bulls fans who do not want Gasol there anymore. His defense, as we saw last night, is dreadful. Plus when paired with Noah he puts Noah out of his comfort zone on offense. Apparently all of their worst 5-man lineups include Gasol and they all see a dramatic uptick when he gets replaced by Noah/Taj/Mirotic. (I initially read this on some Bulls fan site, but afterwards I did some reading of Bulls fans on Gasol and they for the most part agreed.) I don't think there's any chance in Hell they trade him this year, but in the next few years I wonder if they'll look into it.
I think Rubio game is very similiar to JKidd early in his career, of course not as good as Kidd. Can't shoot, but set up teammates and making their lives easier. I think with the talent we have with Harden, DMo, JSmoove, Howard (maybe), Ariza, and Brewer, adding Rubio can be lethal. If Howard comes back right, Rubio turns Howard back to a PnR player. I am all for upgrading the PG bc Bev is not cutting it.
Really think the Nuggets are gonna blow up their roster along with firing Shaw. I wonder if a three way trade of Lawson to us, Jackson, NOP pick and other pieces to Denver and Chandler or Gallo or Afflalo to OKC would be workable.
We need to look and see how Rondo plays out in Dallas. It's pretty analogous to our situation if we are to get Rubio. The loss of spacing seems to be hurting Dallas, granted it is a small sample size and it might work itself out as the season goes on.
The Nuggets currently have an open roster spot from the Mozgov trade, so they can absorb an extra player without waiving anyone on their roster. This works salary-wise: 3 team trade: Nuggets in: Trevor Ariza, Anthony Morrow, Reggie Jackson, Isaiah Canaan Rockets in: Ty Lawson Thunder in: Wilson Chandler, Erick Green
Rondo is out too long to analogize for this year's trade deadline. And Monta ain't TheBeard. The teams just are not the same.
OK, here's a question I'd like some assistance with: the possibility is that DM the GM cannot do a suitable deadline deal because he prefers buy-out and/or CBA returnees better. If a 1 is added (Will Bynum has been mentioned) who gets cut? If a 5 (or 4/5) gets added (Haddidi, Blatche perhaps?) who gets cut? I could see interest in Canaan, Johnson, Dorsey, TJo, Capela but enough to warrant a pick back without a contract?
Obviously they arent the same, but the spacing and ball domnant 2 gaurd are very analogous. You are right that him being out wont give us anytime to analyze before the deadline. I suspect Morey will get any of the talked about gaurds he is able to snag without giving up Dmo (Dragic, Lawson, Rubio, Bledsoe).
I personally think Rondo will pay dividends for the Mavericks come playoff time. Dallas if healthy will be very formidable. I'm not a Rubio fan but he would make the rockets a better team than what Beverly currently has done. Rubio's one flaw is just to huge for me to want him on a potential championship team.
