So malakas, if you really are a Bucks fan first.. Why are you leaking stuff to a website Morey reads? I think either: A) You are actually a Lakers fan or B) You are trying to get an internship
You are wrong. It has been repeatedly been leaked in brewhoop and realgm from our insiders that Ersan was shopped during the summer and the only reason they didn't trade him was because they didnt like the offers of second round picks. He doesn't have negative value BUT even if he had his last year is only 400k guaranteed so he won't be packaged with Knight if he devalues the trade. I try to come here and post not as a Bucks homer but as objectively as possible esp since I also like the Rockets. Otherwise I would right now be saying : " Knight gonna named an all Star! He's Kyrie-lite! We ask for first round pick and DMO at least!" Bucks have no urgency to trade Knight by the deadline and especially no urgency to trade him to a lowball offer from the Rockets. Kings would offer much more for him at the very least. He has his deficiencies which would be completely hidden in the Rockets system. In contrast with Lawson's ones. I think it's a good fit and seriously not a gamble. He is NOT josh smith.He is NOT a black hole who shoots whatever. Go watch one game of him and you will understand.
In a perfect world scenario where you swap Dwight this year for DJ this year, and subtract their salaries to allow the Rockets to use the cap space on rounding out their roster better.... Of course. However, this isn't a perfect world scenario, DJ is about to be paid on par with where Dwight is anyways, and health is what it is... a crap shoot. DJ is just as likely to suffer a career altering injury next year, and Dwight is more than capable of transitioning to another version of himself that is sustainable on the defensive end for years to come. All you can look at is "At the time of acquisition". At the time of acquisition, signing Dwight Howard over trading for DeAndre Jordan was the right move. And IF both players were in free agency at that time with an open market, Dwight is still the way to go as a far superior player. Even today if you put both DJ, and Dwight in free agency in an open market scenario with health in question its still going to be tough to convince many GM's to choose DJ over Dwight IMO. (We aren't even talking about the marketing aspect of the business of basketball as well. That's an important part of the business side of basketball which I'm sure you of all people understand even if you hate Dwight personally.... he's a draw to your business). Sorry... I know people want simplistic answers around here, but situation, market, and circumstances that happen in the league make such hypothetical scenarios non-simplistic to explain.
Dobro this is why you are the man ^^^^. Well said brother. It's a reason why Morey went after the big fella multiple times.
Hate the Fakers. I wasn't planning to post just read mostly but well..maybe i should go back to lurking. Clutchfans rocks as a forum
His defence is very overrated and he can't even be onthe court when the game is on the line. If he didn't have Paul no matter how many rebounds he got he would be far from a max player. He has improved a bit but not a lot. One of the most overrated centers of the game imo.
From your post I take it you're just messing around. In the event that you are actually being serious though: 1. Not my job. I lack both the time and interest to scour the internet arguing over hypotheticals. 2. My posts and stance were the following: - "People who hate on and attack insiders are just losers with **** for brains. They are jealous that someone might have access to information that they so desperately want, so they try to tear them down in an attempt to discredit them. The rest of us with actual intelligence, take that information and make private deductions or conclusions of are own." - "GM's, executives, scouts, ect say ALL KINDS OF THINGS when they don't believe others are listening in or even when they are. Did you forget already what Hawks former GM Ferry said about Deng during a scouting report? All GM's have their ideal dream lineups that they feel can contend at any point in time." Whether or not Morey actually said so, I have no idea, but it is BELIEVABLE. You and others can dismiss it if you CHOOSE, but for posters to attack CyberX for it or imply that he is full of **** is just stupid. Like I said, people who have intelligence will hear what he has to say and draw your own conclusions. GM's like anyone are still human and still say things that they regret if it comes out of the closet. While Lin is not superstar, I do remember people reporting how he mentioned that that's why he wanted to keep Dragic. You can also logically assume that GM for Pistons mentioned privately at some point he wished he had another player over Smith. I can only imagine the things that Sterling had said before being ostracized for what a hooker caught him saying. TO SUM THINGS UP; I believe it is possible Morey said that to some degree. Whether he said it or not is up to each of us to decide.
Thanks. These hypothetical's need to be put on a fair playing field to get answers that really mean much for productive discussion. How about this- Lets say its June and there are 10 teams going into free with Max Cap space. DeAndre Jordan, and Dwight Howard (in present form), are both un-restricted free agents, and both players decide to meet with all 10 teams. How many of those 10 teams go after Dwight as their number 1 target, and how many go after DeAndre. The one assumption we can all make is both guys are getting a max contract offer in this open market scenario which I think is fair.
I guess we can agree to disagree on Ilyasova. He's not an expiring, and he's not the player he was in 2012-2013. I don't doubt that the Bucks have no urgency to trade him, just as I don't doubt that the Rockets have no urgency to trade for him. We've got Beverley, Canaan, Johnson, and Llull already in the pipeline....why overpay for a PG whose current team is worse off when he plays?
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:grin: I feel sorry for the guy.Also the Kyrie breaking his ankles and the missed layup this year. He has been in so many bad highlights. Really good hardworking kid as well who doesn't back down from nothing. But having said that Clippers are a whiny bunch who all deserve a punch in their collective face and DJ will be a very bad contract as soon as he gets older and loses his athletism. He has no skills. Billy King said he is no looking for a trade no more. So denver has to give up on getting Lopez. Maybe this opens the way for trading Lawson? Maybe they will decide to commit in one direction now and rebuild.
So what you're saying is KM, GA, and JP are fixtures at the 2,3, and 4 spots for the Bucks for the future. That leaves them with needing a 1 and a 5. And they don't want Knight apparently as the 1. Obviously DMo makes a lot of sense to you guys at the 5. If what you are saying is true then I'd almost be willing to bet that Milwaukee would take DMo for Knight straight up with no picks and then they'd try to get a PG in free agency or the draft. However, I would seriously doubt Morey would offer DMo for Knight. Which brings us to the Pels pick and other assets for Knight and possibly another contract like Dudley or Ilyasova. Would Morey do that? Dunno. If I were Morey I would not do that. I'd hold out for Middleton with Knight and we possibly take back Dudley and other salary while giving Milwaukee the Pels pick and the Knicks pick and Ariza. Knight for the Pels pick doesn't feel like a championship move on our end. I like Knight. But I don't think him by himself is enough to make us a championship team. And to give up the Pels pick for him land locks us. Because we won't have the ability to participate in free agency this summer and we will likely lack trade assets to make a major move and we would face the potential of overpaying Knight ourselves. Why would we trade the Pels pick for Knight and face the possibility of having to overpay him when we could do the same deal for Lawson and pay him a reasonable salary? The only way Morey goes all-in on a trade, on other words, he gives up the Pels pick and gives up the ability to get close to max cap space this summer and next summer.....is if he feels like he is trading for the pieces to win a championship. I, personally, don't feel Knight represents that in and of himself. Nice player. I like him a lot. But I wouldn't go all-in for him.
Yeah that's what I'm saying but what i say and what Kidd does can be two different things. But you kinda hope from your HOFer pg coach to see that Knight isn't good at the 1. Yep Dmo for me would be the ideal target but I don't think Morey should do it. If Dwight wasn't injured he should but now it's too much of a risk imo. That's why I said yesterday that I thought Knights new contract would be a red flag but you all said that no Morey will pay him. He will get paid in my opinion at least 11 per. If he gets traded to the Rockets he may become cheaper though coz he won't be the main guy anymore and will have to take a back seat to Harden. Lawson imo is not such a great fit next to Harden. The perimeter defence will be terrible and will overtax the bigs. Just my opinion. Plus he has repeated ankle injuries almost every year. I really enjoy watching him play though whenever we play the Nugs. Other than that if Morey offers just the Pels bick and bench filler Bucks will decline. I am certain of this. The deal has to be good for us as well to convince them to trade their all star. ps Dudley is not a throw in as a salary to take back. He's been balling. He may look like a muppet ****** but what a clever clever player. I don't follow the Suns so much so I expected a scrub and what a suprise. We have a match coming up soon so you will see.
Brandon Knight is only 23 years old (hasn't even entered his prime), has improved every year he has been in the league. He is a 6'3" shooting guard in a PG body. But he would play next to a 6'5" Shooting guard that is a PG (Harden). BK is miscast in the Bucks' system, but would slot in great with Harden. I would absolutely move the NOP pick for Brandon Knight. Give Harden a backcourt running mate to compete against Curry/Thompson, Lillard/Mathews etc. It would make all of the difference! malakas, thanks again for all of your insight!
Perhaps the Bucks are worse off when he plays because as a passing PG he is average. His skills aren't being maximized. In Houston, he would be playing with Harden, and would be somewhat liberated from those duties. And with Harden on the bench, BK would be someone that can take people off the dribble to score, which is a skill none of of other Rockets have. Dragic, Lawson, Knight. They would all help the Rockets in each of their own ways. And they all would COST about the same million/yr. But Knight is MUCH younger.
