What I'm saying is that the trade deadline is in three weeks, are the Rockets or any other team really going to know based on those three weeks if he's going to be healthy for the foreseeable future? I don't think we are going to pull the trigger on a trade solely based on TJ's health. The right deal hasn't presented itself, that's the reason we haven't dealt anyone yet. ....... ....... .......
He was pretty good against the Bulls last night. I'd be fine with him as an addition to the team(he's way better than Dorsey), but I don't think he's worth giving up too much for. Would K-Pap and Shved(the salaries have to come within 15%, right?) be enough for the Lakers? Would they demand the NOP pick or would 2nd rounders be ok? If they want Terry or Brewer though, I'd tell them to kiss off.
If Jones is traded, it better be for someone really good. Whatever deficits he had as against the elite PFs in the west, this guy is just a very good bb player.
Assuming the Lakers are serious about wanting cap space this Summer, they are going to be waiving Hill, and losing him for nothing. Sure they might say they want a first round pick, but who in their right mind is offering that? The Rockets aren't the Cavs, and aren't going to bid against themselves in desperation. I think Morey offers a 2nd round pick, but nothing more. Giving away a lottery pick for Jordan Hill would be one of the dumbest GM moves I've seen since... I dunno. It would be dumb though because its very unnecessary.
Then make it a future Rockets 1st rounder, not the Pelicans pick. I'd like Hill on this team, but not if the cost is too steep. We're 32-14 and 10-4 without Dwight(with T-Jones missing all but 1 of those games, BTW). We're not desperate here unless Dwight is done for the season, and no one knows that yet. BTW, Hill is due 9 mil next season and then comes off the books. So if Morey is looking at "flexibility" for 2016, trading for him would not impact that.
Hill has a team option next year. If the Rockets asked Brewer to waive his PO next year as reported, they would definitely be waiving their team option on him this Summer letting him go elsewhere. The Rockets, if trading for Hill, are likely only renting him for a couple months. If he's not going to be the difference between just barely making the playoffs, and winning it all/going super deep, then you need to be careful how much you want to give up for him. He's a rental. Pay for him like one.
lol Don't think he is worth a future 1st either but teams know we are hurting and will play hardball. Maybe we have something else they would want like talent?
Is that confirmed that it's a team option for for 2015-16? I'm looking up salaries on Basketball Reference which is usually pretty reliable and they show it as 9 mil guaranteed for next year.
Sham Sports and Hoopshype both have it as a team option. http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-lakers-sign-jordan-hill-20140723-story.html The Lakers were able to exceed the salary cap to re-sign him at roughly $9 million for the coming season. The team is also reported to have an option on Hill's second year.
Memphis, LAC, SAS, POR, others, are all teams that play smash mouth at the big spots. If Dwight goes down we are going to have to get another legit big man from somewheres that can compete on the defensive end. There is no way that we can rely on a 3-some of DMo, Smith, and Jones to hold down the fort against those teams. EVEN WITH DWIGHT HEALTHY we need 3 legit big bigs. Now I will say Smith has proven somewhat that he is capable of holding down the paint area. But I'm still not for sure if I would be completely comfortable with him going against a bulldog like Zach or talents like LaMarcus. As far as Dorsey goes.....he's a center only. Can't defend anybody outside the lane. Too small to contest jump shooters like Gasol. Dorsey needs to be included in a trade for a perimeter playmaker and we need to bring in another guy to fill Dorsey's role. I'm suggesting Hamed Haddadi.
If Dwight has a serious injury, and is done for this year and possibly beyond. I don't think it makes sense to go "all in" for this year. We have young players that are rapidly developing and we have draft picks we could use instead of trading. We have Harden for three more years after this year. This year is not do or die.
On another note, don't bank on DMo being traded for anything less than a superstar big. No way do we move him in a package for Jordan Hill. That's ridiculous. Hill should be obtainable for "Pappamissalot" and "Shved the offense" and a future #2. Nothing more.
Here is were I wish we could role back time a couple of years, Marcus Camby in a limited role would of been ideal in this situation! ....... ....... .......
Every year you go for the championship regardless. If you can get a top 8 seed all bets are off. Houston sports team have to kill that loser mentality and just go for it. Next year another key piece could have issues.
lol I am starting to lean this way too. Why go all in if we don't have to yet? We have some nice assets and I can see using a couple of them like Papa or Shved, etc to tweak an area or two but let's run with what we have.
I agree to a certain extent but we have to realize that if this is the beginning of the end for "elite" Howard, the time to win is now. We haven't had this much talent, overall, in a long time and never had it since Harden has been here. I'd venture and say the hope is that Howard rests until the playoffs and the team makes one valiant push with him still our 2nd best player before the wheel finally falls off next year. If that's the case then Morey could look into making some real investments (e.g. Hill) now that won't cripple the team's flexibility after Howard's contract is done. If you had one shot with Harden and Howard then this is the year to do it I'm afraid.
C'mon man, Camby is probably right now at the Social Security office applying for retirement benefits.
