Haha ha...potential to be the best?..after a couple of good games? And so no need to upgrade there right? Welcome Ryan McDonough to clutchfans
Haha, one of the best. That's in the top 10 as far as I'm concerned. He might not get there, but if his health holds up, he has a good chance. Upgrade to what? Marc Gasol? Sure, bring him on. A middling center that Phoenix would likely get and would stifle the progression of Len? No. They have Wright, Len and Plumlee at the C, that is a nice young rotation with lots of potential. IF you get a game changer, bring him on, otherwise don't bother. And currently there isn't even an available center that would be as good as Len right now, or am I missing something?
Kosta Koufos should be on the radar of every team in need of a center. He'll be too expensive to retain in his current role as a backup and Memphis would love to get something for him. Pekovic should also be in consideration though he is a pretty poor defender.
Oh, yes, I forgot a bout him. And I didn't know he's only 25. Pekovic gives away way to much on the defensive end for my taste. Center is your last line of defense against heavily prevailing penetrating guards of today's NBA and opposing post players. You'll get seriously abused with someone like Pek inside. But that's besides the point when it comes to Phoenix. They just traded for a young defensive big yesterday and I don't expect them making further moves on that field this season.
After the Suns traded for Brandon Wright, why would they want TJones/DMo? We have nothing great to offer them for a very good starting PG like Dragic. It's dead.
doc said dragic doesn't want to leave phx... they have no reason to trade him if: a) he wants to stay b) they spent a pick on acquiring wright. why spend a pick to bring in talent and then trade dragic for younger players and picks? doesn't make sense my bet is on lawson. the nuggets are gonna blow it all up. they have 2 borderline all stars at positions of need for us (fareid/lawson). i bet we come away with one of them at the deadline. dwill, lawson, faried, and rubio might be the best players available at the deadline. however, i think we already made our trade with the wolves. if we wanted rubio we would've got him then. i'm not crazy about dwill's defense, health, or contract, but i see advantages on offense if healthy. i'd bet we end up with lawson, faried, or dwill.
Even if Dragic doesn't want to leave PHX, they still have to pay him a ton of money to have him stay. There will be no shortage of bidder for Dragic's services this summer, especially with the cap expected to jump dramatically in 2016. Beside, you never know how a player will feel in 6 months or even one month, even if he feels a certain way right now. Not that I think it is likely for HOU to land any specific player-- teams are reluctant to trade their good players unless absolutely necessary-- I just would not dismiss any particular option out of hand.
That is the offseason. All of the major players that have been rumored to be dealt have been dealt. Rondo, Brewer, Green, Wright, Mozgov, Waiters, Schumpert, etc. There are no disgruntled stars to go get. Not by the deadline. Dragic is not coming here. Period. And I would be shocked if he is traded at all. If I was PHX I would trade Bledsoe in the offseason and resign Dragic rather than let Dragic leave for nothing or take a ****ty deal at the deadline. Trading Bledsoe would net you more than Dragic because he is under contract already. No threat of leaving. Why can't you understand that? GMs are not dumb.
Thank you. This is all I'm trying to say. These PollyAnna homers are killing me. Dragic is their best player. They are not trading him for pennies on the dollar just because the Rockets want him. The NBA does not revolve around the Houston Rockets contrary to popular belief. D Mo or Jones and the Pels pick is not getting Dragic. If it was it would have happened already. Neither is Brewer and Shved and a pick. Stop the madness!
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i really hope you and other posters are right about lawson. i don't see a realistic trade option for him. does denver have stupid management? that would be the only way we could fleece them. i think denver likes him a lot. i'm not a huge fan of him because he sucks on defense but he'd be a pretty good fit for our offense. d-will is one of my favorite players but he has fallen off tremendously. i don't even know what contracts we could offer to get him. terry would be in there for starters. is there a possibility the nets cut him and maybe we get him for the minimum or something? three way trade or something?
I agree with the Dragic part of your comment. Faired signed a hideous extension that Morey would not touch with a 10 foot pole. On top of that Josh Smith provides whatever Faried does and some. The 4 is no longer a position of need, especially when Jones comes back. Lawson is a nice player but once again, what are we sending them? He is their best player. Why would they want a draft pick lower then the lottery pick they about to earn for themselves? They have 20 million plus tied up in Faried and Javale McGee. Why do they need one of our bigs with one of them coming off a nerve injury? Life would be great if we could trade scraps for every team's best player but it ain't happening. If Shved does what Morey and McHale want him too there will be no more major trades for rotation players.
Carl, That's going to be very interesting to watch over the next month. If Cleveland can't get the ship righted and Love says he will walk and only resign with a few teams if he's traded.... Still doubt he's going anywhere, but there's a chance, especially if DMo dominates.
I understand what you're saying. You think there's little reason for them to trade him. I get that I don't disagree with that state as of today. The point you can't seem to understand is that I'm not saying there's a good chance of it happening or even greater than 5% chance of it happening now. What I'm saying is 1) things can change quicky in 5 weeks, especially around the deadline when teams make their final decisions about the season. 2) the fact that no one knows what's going to happen and given that there are conditions conducive for movement it's not ridiculous for people to talk, debate, and speculate about it. If you think there's zero chance of dragic being traded that's fine. Debate all you want about why you think it's not going to happen. But it's just as ridiculous to expect others to agree with your assessment on the chances of it happening or not and therefore should stop speculating and discussing it. Let me give you an extreme example to prove my point. I, in no way, think OKC trades KD. There's no evidence to suggest it. There's no circumstantial reason to even think it a possibility. But let's say a poster on here says hey why don't we trade a 2nd rounder for KD? As much as I'd think he's off his rocker and has no reason to even bring it up he has every right to talk about it if he thinks theres some off chance reason for it happening. What'll happen is eventually no one will debate the possibility with him because they see no reason to entertain such a notion. Problem solved. In this case obviously there are enough people on here who see some merit and reason to speculate on Dragic being traded. You might not agree but obviously others do and so they'll debate and discuss. If you disagree fine....debate away why you think there's zero chance. Or if you rather, just don't click on the thread (which happens to be the mother of all "discuss whatever you want" threads). But quit telling people what they can and can't discuss just because you don't agree with the premise of the discussion.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Would you trade Pap, Jet, Capella & #1 for Ty Lawson?</p>— Doc Rocket (@Thedocrocket) <a href="https://twitter.com/Thedocrocket/status/554367767063703552">January 11, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> This is Doc's estimated guess at Lawson's value right now.
We all know Morey is going to get someone totally under the radar that we aren't even talking about or considering. A Rafer Alston in exchange for Kyle Lowry type deal. I'm actually looking at a player like Lowry when he was dealt here; young, unknown but plays hard and can make plays down the stretch. Maybe someone like Tony Wroten? Wroten and Kirlineko for the NOP pick and Jones, Pap? Idk. Honestly, the answers to our PG problem might be on the team already. Everyone, including myself, are high on Canaan. But Shved can be a game changer, I think. I love his size and he seems to be an okay shooter and creative playmaker. Watching some highlights, he looks like a poor man's Dragic. He's pretty crafty. I highly doubt Denver gets rid of Lawson. He is young enough on a okay contract to keep around for a rebuild. They would probably like to get rid of Afflalo, Chandler and even Galo but those three players don't fit an immediate need for this team and Morey won't use our best assets (NOP pick, Jones, Capela, DMo for the right price) on them.
That Pelicans can traded during the draft or right before it. Morey will not trade that pick for scraps. He might use the pick and trade the player he drafts like he traded Jeremy Lamb after he tried to trade the pick. There are not many options for trades now. The trades have already happened. Might Morey trade Canaan for a 2nd round pick or something minor like that? Sure. But from my perspective the Josh Smith signing took away from where I think he would have made his next big trade. The front court would have been the trade target sans Josh Smith. They tried to trade for him before he was cut anyway.
