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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Two Sandwiches, Jul 11, 2014.

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  1. gregas

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    What? With the exception of Len, non of their rotational guys are "young". The twins, Bledsoe and IT will be turning 26 this year, PJ Tucker 30, Gerald Green 29, Plumlee 27. They don't have to wait on anybody, with the exception of Len, everyone is pretty much in their prime. And Goran is not exactly old either. He'll be 29 with little actual NBA mileage and light injury history. Frankly, Bledsoe and his meniscus surgery is a bigger concern for the long term competitiveness of their core than Goran's age.

    Goran might be shipped off, but it's not going to be because of his age.
     
  2. xiki

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    I like Wright. But - - he's not the Chandler er Channing Frye PHX has been lusting for.

    PHX may well believe they can effect an SnT for Big Zoran in July???
     
  3. Aleron

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    there were quite a few reports, but most pretty much just said that phoenix were asking for way too much.
     
  4. ArtV

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    And since they do appear to buyers and not sellers as someone said, you need to do a paradym shift and say what else would they like to buy? A 26 year old starting center in Lopez? Lopez and Bledsoe, gives them 2 young players to build around without losing their current playoff hopes. Morey can help facilitate the moves to make all happy...including the Rockets.
     
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    You're right, I forgot how much older Plumlee and the twins are..but I still think Goran's age is a factor. It won't be the only reason he gets traded, but still a major one. The Suns simply don't have an all star and it'll be hard to really contend without one. If they get lucky, they can get one and give up IT or Bledsoe, but IMO, things have settled down and it'll be hard to land someone in a year or two. Their guards have AS potential, but can they break through in a crowded rotation? They really need a better frontcourt. They need time, with Goran, they have less of it.
     
  6. Aleron

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    What do they buy with? the lakers pick but that's about it, look at the price for pgs vs front court. 2 first rounders for Mozgov, effectively 1 first rounder and 3 second rounders for Rondo. If they want to keep Dragic, they need to get rid of one of (if not both) Thomas and Bledsoe, when you need to get rid of something and that asset is oversupplied, the value is never high (plus they're both overpaid).

    They took Wright because it cost them 2 second rounders and they're seeing if it would work, it's a low risk move, like josh smith was for us, if they were going all in, they would have leveraged that lakers pick, teams can change from trying to win to trying to lose incredibly quickly, but phoenix have a schedule basically designed to decide for them.
     
  7. JoeBarelyCares

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    Hello, Brendan Haywood.
     
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    Bledsoe has a history of injuries. That is why they will have a hard time trading for him with that monster contract despite his age.
     
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    They need a starting C to really go anywhere and they can use Dragic to accomplish that - keeping those that are already under acceptable contracts. (There is the fear of teams with money that strike out on other FAs offering Dragic a max which I doubt the PHX GM wants to be that lopsided on his money vs roster). Morey just needs to find a way to get in the middle of that transaction for a 3 way deal.
     
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    Len has become that starting C.
     
  11. Rox>Mavs

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    PHX is okay-to-good at positions 2-5. They have an ok center with potential right now. If they feel they need to trade dragic, they'll want to do so for a great player at 2-5, not someone who is a lateral or even minor upgrade.

    There aren't many players available though that would constitute a huge upgrade over who they have at those positions. So by the trade deadline they may consider trading him for pieces that can be used later should such a player become available to them or just hold onto him and hope he resigns for a deal they are willing to pay. My money if they don't make the playoffs is on the former.

    Hopefully a 2-5 borderline star or stud on a bad team gets disgruntled and needs to be traded. We could facilitate the trade with our assets to secure dragic. A lot can happen in 5 weeks.
     
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    The Morris twins, Len and Plumlee are all solid NBA rotation players individually. But collectively that is a very weak NBA frontcourt.

    Phoenix know this, they need somebody that can be an actual impact player inside. We can't provide that without D-Mo, but maybe somebody else can, and that's when we get in on the 3 way.
     
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    Brook Lopez to phoenix
     
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    Terrible fit IMO.

    Now, Brook to Po'land to play with his bro would be crazy fun (and bad for Po'land).
     
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    That won't happen. Didn't you know that there is league rule that siblings can only play together in Pheonix? :p
     
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    That forgotten by me rule protects the citizenry of the Rose City from some hellacious fun from this bros.

    And BTW - - whoda ever thunk Robin would be the better NBAer?
     
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    Totally right. No doubt Morey has those games circled.
     
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    Not sure how to embed tweets, but someone should post Doc Rocket's latest to get light this thread on fire again..
     
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    Docs tweets now are probably more opinion that insider tips but he's got a point.

    The three headed PG lineup is working and Dragic is happier than you think in Phoenix. If I'm Phoenix's GM im trying to make the playoffs this year especially after the Wright trade. I also think there is a good chance I can resign Dragic. You can always move one in the future and with the cap going up their value in the figure will net better returns than if you dump him for picks now just because you are so non confident in your city that you are scared of free agency.

    And yes I agree with Doc that DMo can't be traded this year under almost any circumstance. He's the future and also the present right now and is doing pretty much everything you were expecting Bosh to do in his role with Houston has he signed.

    That's huge and he's only going to get better in the future.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>I'll say this: I do NOT include D-Mo in any trade for Dragic. Also, Dragic does NOT want to leave Phoenix. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/moveon?src=hash">#moveon</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/dead?src=hash">#dead</a></p>&mdash; Doc Rocket (@Thedocrocket) <a href="https://twitter.com/Thedocrocket/status/554331700855963649">January 11, 2015</a></blockquote>
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