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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Two Sandwiches, Jul 11, 2014.

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  1. Teen Wolf

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    I see what you're trying to do there;) but i don't get what you mean by ridden?
     
  2. Teen Wolf

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    Yes I'm the idiot. Lin a pg with no handles and no shot = a legit 7fter that runs the floor like a gazelle, plays great positional defense, moves the ball, sets the best screens on the team and has an elite post game. Don't worry time will expose your complete lack of vision.
     
  3. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    IMO D-Mo is now a solid rotational player and great backup behind Dwight and Smith. He is NOT a franchise player nor is he a budding star. He needs to learn to be more assertive with the 2nd unit at the very least and producing consistently there first before anyone should give him any sort of title.
     
  4. chenjy9

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    1. D-Mo's positional defense is overrated. It is good IMO not great.
    2. He sets the best screens because Dwight doesn't try. That's not much of an accomplishment.
    3. Elite post game? Don't make me laugh. His post game has all come from one on one matchups. Scola had a MUCH better post game and it wasn't even considered elite. You are trying to argue that D-Mo's is?

    Yeah... you keep thinking that. D-Mo will never be a star. He is at best a solid starter in this league.
     
  5. Exiled

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    DMo is ....Parson, so both can be offended
     
  6. jimmyv281

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    Agree!
     
  7. Kevooooo

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    You mean the two seasons he was used I effectively on the permimeter w limited post touches, despite the fact that we knew coming in his strength was w his back to the basket?

    Stats suggest dmo is a very capable paint protector. He isn't some scrub having a decent few games. He has continually shown he can post up w the best of them, and he is now staying out of foul trouble and playing much better defense.

    To suggest that it is a ridiculous notion to consider dmo important to this time is ignoring the facts of our roster. Jones is 6 9 and has never shown he able to defend any kind of big. And unfortunately his shot is woefully inconsistent the last 2 years in the big league.

    Josh smith is only guaranteed for the rest of this season. dmo still has a few years on his rookie contract. He is worth a lot more than you give him credit for.
     
  8. chenjy9

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    1. Role players have no ability to choose how they are ultimately played. In this league, it is all about fitting around your star players. Players destined for greatness will still find ways to excel in their limited roles. D-Mo has only shown me that he lacks the ability to assert himself when people are ignoring him. As long as he does not demand touches from the 2nd unit and get mad when he doesn't get said touches, he will never rise up if he plays on the same team as a healthy Dwight. If he had added at least a consistent mid range shot, we wouldn't be talking about this.

    2. I am not saying that D-Mo is a scrub that only had a few good games. I am saying it is absolutely STUPID to suggest that D-Mo is a budding star based on less than 20 games. I never said that D-Mo was not important for us after showing he has the ability to actually step up. I am saying that he is not essential in that if we have to give him up to get a player like Dragic, we absolutely do it. D-Mo has not proven anything beyond that he can compete with starters in 1v1 matchups.

    3. I never said D-Mo was worthless this year. I argue that he is not a budding star and therefore not worth more than players like Dragic. If we have to dump him for Dragic, we absolutely do it. That said, I would rather keep him due to future question marks in our front court heading into next year. If Smith does agree to extend for cheap though and T-Jones recovers, we absolutely dump D-Mo by the trade deadline.

    Is D-Mo worth something? Yes he is. One can argue he is our most valuable trade asset right now. However, until he shows aggression and assertiveness down low or the ability to consistently draw (not even beat) double team's and draw fouls, he has not proven to be anything than starter material.
     
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    Chenjy...

    Your last couple of post have been right on point...

    T_Man

     
  10. Carl Herrera

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    Tonight is another example of the Rockets needing Goran Dragic another guy who can create something off the dribble.

    Harden got a bunch of TOs because he needed to carry too much of an offensive burden against too much defensive attention. The rest of the perimeter guys end up mostly chucking up a bunch of jump shots-- Brewer was hot but the rest of them were cold.

    Josh Smith tried to do some things off the dribble, but even in Atlanta he wasn't the most efficient guy if you go to him to make things happen as a ball handler (can't shoot Js, and too many TOs).

    DMo and Howard did some good things in the post, but they really couldn't punish the Spurs in a sustained fashion.

    Some of the sloppy play will hopefully go away with experience, practice and chemistry. But this has been the pattern for much of the season.
     
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    Crowed lanes whole game now
     
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    I agree with needing Dragic, particularly after tonight when the Rockets were punished by the Spurs point guards and both Beverley and Terry were unable to respond. The biggest issue IMO was not crowded lanes but the fact that players ignored DMo when he had deep post position to pass the ball to the week side for a 3 or a turnover.
     
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    This is a consistent trend and another reason why the Rockets need Dragic: to get the ball out of Beverley and Ariza's hands because they always do that.
     
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    What do you think Dmo' s next contract will be? :rolleyes:
     
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    Please get us Dragic Morey. There's 3 people on this team who are untouchable and one of them is not DMo
     
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    Beverly must have an issue with DMo or something. He basically goes out of his way not to pass him the ball.


    Or he just doesn't trust his own ability to pass the ball into the post? That's actually probably it.



    I lol every day when people try to argue that Dragic wouldn't be a game changer for us
     
  17. DasouthDakota

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    Dragic isn't some wizard for a passer, and I don't think he's that cerebral as a PG. He's a scoring PG.

    So yes, Dragic would relieve some of James Hardens scoring burden....but we'd still have problems getting the ball into the post
     
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    When is D-Mo's contract up? It's probably time to trade him anyway. I have a feeling his camp is going to want more than what Morey's willing to pay.

    While his value is high. Do what needs to be done.
     
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    Kpap is our best entry passer and he's now relegated to the bench
     
  20. ROXTXIA

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    Along with Canaan.

    McHale has his vets, how wonderful! But the shame is, he'll completely drop guys who produced for him this year.
     
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