I would be fine using any combination of the pieces you would use in a deal for Dragic and a backup center just to get the Dragon. Donatas will fill the backup center spot, in my humble opinion, and we appear to be keeping Dorsey, who looked useful last night. I'd really like to hang on to Donuts. Set the chips in front of Phoenix and see what will make them bite. Dragic would be worth Jones, Capela, Canaan, the Russian, the Pelican's pick, and the second from the Knicks, in my humble opinion (although I'd like to keep one or both of the picks - wishful thinking), but no Donuts, please. Whether that works for the Suns, or works at all (too many bodies leaving - we'd need a couple of extra dudes coming from somewhere) is another thing entirely, of course, and Goran would have to agree to sign an extension with the Rockets. Just fantasizing.
As usual you completely missed the point and tried to turn it into something it isn't. Big vs small - that is it. DD
I actually agree with you. Especially if the Harden that we're seeing now is the Harden that we see during the playoffs.
Actually you're missing the point and you get upset when challenged so easily. Dragic or DMo. Not a tough one here as to who is better. Morey has shown he can easily get role players. The stars are hard to find.
He's right though, you're missing the point. It doesn't matter who is better, it matters who is better for this current team. Who is more easily replaceable? What would getting one do to the team? If you trade DMo for Gogi then it's either a rental of Gogi, or you also lose Smith unless he's going to sign for the minimum because you don't have his Bird rights. You'd be effectively killing the PF and C position to pick up another PG while making Beverley a bench player. I know you mean well when you make suggestions, but this time you are being incredibly short sighted.
You are on the right track. D-Wade carried Damon Jones. LeBron and D-Wade carried Mario Chalmers. If Harden can carry the playmaking burden the entire season and playoffs, Rockets should be OK. But I don't think making that assumption is a good idea. Dragic would lift part of the burden of creating from Harden and he would punish teams that doubled Harden near the end of games. They would become much more difficult to defend, especially when defenses start attacking the ball. DD, welcome to 2014. The "big vs. small" debate stopped applying a long time ago. Continue living in the 90s if you like, but the NBA has changed quite a bit.
Yes, and as usual you fail to see the bigger picture, where we have a Center that can opt out, has balky knees and no one else on the roster over 7' tall. We can't take that risk - we have a solid rotation and backup roster, if you trade DMO you HAVE to get a backup center, as you know, or should know 7' skilled big men do not grow on trees whereas PGs are a dime a dozen. DD
I wasn't making suggestions. I'm saying Dragic helps this team more than DMo. Dragic would be a starter and DMo would be a bench role player. More easily replaceable. Seriously? A bench player is harder to replace than a borderline all-star? We'll see how much each gets in the open market. I know you mean well when you say Fitz is good and guys like Peyton, Andre, and Josh suk. But I disagree.
As usual you obsess over a role player and predict disaster if they leave. How are Brooks, Jordan Hill, and Budinger doing? It's never happened. The big picture is finding stars is hard. The small picture is focusing on role players for the short term. Now we have make every decisions assuming Dwight will be injured or opt out? Lol ok
Well at least you tried to keep up. The NBA has good PG's all over the place and how many young 7 footers who play great defense and have the kind of post moves DMo does? Also you are completely ignoring the other costs of getting Gogi and making him more than a rental. You'd kill the depth at PF and C because DMo would be gone and there would be no more money to sign Smith while probably running Beverley off when he hit FA. Try to see the whole picture.
As you said, what's best for THIS TEAM is an upgrade at PG. Now while you're correct that bigs are generally more difficult to find than point guards, the point is moot for THIS TEAM which is suddenly stacked at PF. With Smith and Jones, you have all you need for now at that position. Not only is the Dragic trade the right move for talent, its the right move in terms of THIS TEAM'S needs.
I think the important thing with the cap is to look ahead. What will 15 million mean 2 years or more down the road? I believe there are plenty of scenarios where we could go above the cap and keep Smith and Bev along with Dragic signed for close to the max.
Dragic does not help this team all that much - Beverly's defense is needed and his 3pt shot is more consistent. Dragic is better, but not significantly better as a TEAM upgrade, think of Ariza and Parsons, same thing. Parsons is better, but Ariza is a better fit, same with Bev and Dragic. DD
It blows my mind that people would ignore the value of what a trade for Dmo could bring. I mean Jesus people. He's not Hakeem. I like him but come on now....
You are insulting the clutch name. SO we trade Dmo for Dragic, and can't get another big man. Dwight does his back and is out, I don't care what starter we have at point guard, they team will stink. Dragic is better than Dmo, but you don't trade Dmo for Dragic without a extension signed and another quality center in return. Dmo is not a bench player. He was playing at the level of a starter in his 3rd season. You are being narrow focused, just looking at the now. Dmo can become a 3 point shooting big man, above average in the post who can protect the rim. It is actually easier to find a point guard with the skills of Dragic but rare to find talent like Dmo in a 7 footer. You are looking at things in such a simplified way it really doesn't deserve my response. Later on you say Dragic is a star....Dragic had 1 stretch last season where he played like a star and hasn't looked close to that level at all this year. Widen your focus, look at the bigger picture and also look long term.
If your logic made any sense, Gogi would be paid less than DMo. Somehow I doubt that will be the case. You are focusing on the small picture (short term bench depth). Not me.
Cheese and rice, now you are making the who is paid more argument when one is on a rookie contract and the other his 2nd one? Really? No one is saying Dragic won't help, and I do find it ironic that you want him so bad when you hated on him when he was putting Lowry out to pasture, but what folks are saying is that we NEED a Center a big man in case Dwight goes out. We can't win crap without someone over 6'10" tall..... We have a major height advantage with Dmo and Dwight, one in which other NBA teams struggle with, same thing with the Spurs and Grizzlies.... It is a huge advantage come playoff time if you have a post game.... Advantages win championships, and covering up the paint is what most championship teams do.... DD
