So any word on trades,cut,or smoove official signing? Seems like we might not have him in time for tomorrow vs grizz.
With respect, as much of your postings has proved factual and the rest are very probably truthful. That said, when a sports team GM speaks a sports team GM likely lies or is messaging to his end, that's just the nature of the position. Thus, belief in Shved may be accurate or it may well be posturing for whatever deal AS might be included or considered in. Maybe. DM the GM putting out there that 1/3 of his roster is attainable is hardly a gasp inducer. 'What'll you gimme?' A 2-1 deal, with an eye on a future transaction, wouldn't incur a gasp (hey, wait, 60 days and all that - - yeah, in an aggregate. But, still...). Integrating Shved, at the 1/2, would seem exponentially more difficult in season, than a similar talent at the 4/5.
smoove will play tomorrow. Morey is sending out Christmas gifts today. Someone will either get a plane ticket or a lump of coal.
Have you listened to McHale's last radio interview from the 23rd? http://www.sports790.com/media/podc...lk790-spotlight-kevin-mchale-on-the-25702003/
my guess is stein knew a few nba gm and they all inform him about morey contacting them about trade and then stein made the assumption morey contacted everyone
Here are a couple thoughts that I have on how Phoenix may act based on some of the actions taken by Morey between 2009 and 2012: 1. Don't take any public declaration at face value: Just because Phoenix says they want to keep Dragic, it doesn't mean that they are in fact prepared to sign him to a market-value contract. Morey was swearing up and down that he intended to re-sign Marcus Camby and match all offers on Courtney Lee, too, when these two guys were about to hit free agency. Then he ended up trading both of them. It just makes no sense for a GM to admit that he even has a slight bit of doubt about wanting to re-sign a talented upcoming free agent. 2. Even a "core piece" may need to be traded in order to extend the expiration date of his asset value: It's the Kyle Lowry Rule. Morey saw Lowry as a core piece to a contending team. In 2011, he wanted to build a team around Lowry and whatever addition he would try to pull off (Pau Gasol, Marc Gasol, Nene, Melo(?), Dwight, etc.). None of the transactions came through and Lowry became disgruntled. At this point, Morey switched courses and traded Lowry, whose trade value was largely attributable to him vastly out-playing the Mid-level contract that still had 2 years left. He got that "guaranteed lotto pick" from Toronto, which was not likely to yield as good a player as Lowry, but was a trade asset less likely to decline in value and more likely to be wanted by a team losing its star player. I am sure that Phoenix values Dragic and, in a perfect world, may well prefer to have him as a core piece to a championship contending team (which perhaps could be built by trading Bledsoe + other assets for a player who is a level better than Bledose is). But whether they pull this off or not is outside of their control. Meanwhile, Dragic may never again have as much trade value as he does at the deadline this year. He will have plenty of suitors in unrestricted free agency who are willing to pay him a lot of money. He may walk to another team even if they do everything in their power to make him happy. Also, even if he stays in Phoenix, it will be on a hefty contract that goes through age 33 or 34, which he may or may not live up to and which may well make a difference on his trade value. My guess is that Phoenix will do everything that they can to make a "Harden trade" or a "Dwight Trade which Morey tried and failed to complete with Orlando," whether it involves Dragic being traded for an even better player or Dragic staying to play with the incoming star player. But by the February deadline, if such a trade does not materialize, Phoenix will need to seriously think about the risks that they face with Dragic and may just have to decide to make the "Kyle Lowry to Toronto" trade.
Alexey Shved's primary value is the fact that he has a decent-sized ($3.2 mil) expiring contract. This is the #1 reason why he was obtained. Corey Brewer also has what is effectively an expiring contract, as he will most likely NOT exercise his 2015-16 player option. He makes $4.7 mil this season. The two players combined make $7.8 mil this season. Whatever Houston gets from either player, on the actual basketball court, is gravy. Houston's primary motivation was to utilize its TPE to acquire expiring contracts that can be packaged with prospects (expendable, cheap guys), draft picks, and/or other expiring contracts (Jason Terry, Kostas Papanikolaou) to acquire good veteran players as they become available between mid-December and the 2/19 trade deadline. I agree with much of Carl Herrera's analysis and believe that Goran Dragic will be traded by the 2/19 deadline, probably before then, and probably to Houston.
I'm fine w/CH and your comments. I am just not convinced Dragic will be 'the odd man out'. To me it's 33/33/33 with GD, EB and IT. Ainge's midnight call and his roster means to me that Thomas could well be in play, always assuming that PHX gets a verbal with Goran that he's re-signing and/or PHX is convinced they'll make the playoffs. Back to Shved, is he more likely to stay than Canaan? I know not.
I agree that Dragic may not be the odd man out. Phoenix will look into all available options, which may include trading or not trading any or their 3 PGs. I'm not sure it's quite 33-33-33, but none of them is the odd-on favor to be traded. The one thing about Dragic is that his free agency means that Phoenix doesn't have as much of a choice with him as they do with the other two. Even if Phoenix is willing to pay Dragic the full max, trades away both Bledsoe and Thomas to give Dragic all the touches and minutes that he wants, and makes every roster move that Dragic wants made, Dragic can still leave just because his wife likes New York City better than Arizona, because Dragic finds the Morris twins creepy because they are twins or for whatever random reason that there is. Anyway, Phoenix might well find a desirable option that allows them to be confidence in their ability-- and willinginess-- to keep Dragic at market value during free agency. All I am saying is that they likely only have until the trade deadline to find such an option.
May well be a case of just trying to gather some info on the new guy, see how he fits, etc. I remember a couple years ago when Thomas Robinson got a bunch of minutes right after getting traded to Houston for a stretch of games. Robinson was terrible in those minutes (as he has been in most of the minutes his entire NBA career) and fell out of the rotation. Alexey might be getting minutes now, but who knows how permanent this will be. I'm sure he will need to perform much better than he did in his debut in order to keep getting opportunities. In the NBA, you need to either Shved or get off the toilet.
Alexey has some unique physical attributes for a point guard. There is more of a chance that he learns how to shoot than Canaan growing 6 inches and seeing the floor.
Of course. The belief that Goran is on the way out is mostly manufactured self propelling rumor that has been somehow established as fact on here. It's been reported multiple times that Goran is the least likely to go of the three. And the belief that he wants out because of Bledsoe has also been invented here. They won more than 2/3 of their games when playing together last year and had no problems sharing the ball. In fact, when Bledsoe went down last year they brought in Barbosa specifically to be the second handler they were missing with him out. The problem for Goran this year is that sometimes he doesn't handle the ball at all, and is relegated off the ball, passively watching tho other two playing point, while being the best actual point guard - the best at initiating offense for the whole team - himself. The three pg thing just isn't working for him and Phoenix needs to trade Thomas or they really risk loosing him at the end of the season.
We have a good idea of what Canaan brings to the table, at least this season. Who knows what he might develop into, but let's see what we have in Shved.
Speculation of what Dragic wants aside, if you're the PHX FO and you know Dragic is entering UFA this summer. Gauge the market and anticipate what he'll be offered out there by the likes of NYK or LAL. It takes just one team with max space. Are you prepared to spend max money or close to max money on Dragic when 1) you're spending a good chunk of money on Bledsoe 2) Bledsoe + IT fit your future more age wise? Let's say you are. Then you have near $40mm devoted to the PG spot. Or let's say you opt to move IT, then is $32-33mm btwn Bledsoe and Dragic on a team that's stuck in the middle of the WC. Or let's say trade Bledsoe instead, then you have an older PG in Dragic on a more expensive contract that doesn't fit the age window of the rest of your players. Is that an ideal plan for rebuilding? Serious question for you to play Devils advocate as the PHX front office. Convince us Dragic believers of the improbability of them moving Dragic before the other two.
