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Cy-Fair ISD Trustee Racially Divisive Statements (A Deserves Own Thread Thread)

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Jan 17, 2022.

  1. JuanValdez

    JuanValdez Member

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    What if the research demonstrates that it is true that black kids achieve more if they have black teachers? Just ignore the findings because you don't want to "make excuses"? I don't want to debate the research with you because it's a very academic area and neither of us are any kind expert on it. So I don't know if or why the effect isn't the same for Asian or Hispanic kids. That's for experts. I think you and I need to consider what to trust. Do we trust a professor who made a career of studying in this area or a blowhard software engineer? Maybe the blowhard software engineer is right after all, but it'll be by accident and not his experience, expertise, and incisive reasoning.

    As for HISD, they're footprint has more poverty, more unstable households, etc, than does to Cy Fair footprint. Those things probably have a larger impact on drop out rates than the teachers do. It doesn't make sense to compare the two, unless you can build a sophisticated statistical model that controls for those and many other factors and can find a correlation with a sufficiently high modeling fit (and really, you'd want to use many ISDs for that model). All Mr. Henry was doing was comparing a delta in black teacher percentages to a delta in drop out rates, an exercise so simplistic as to be utterly irrelevant.
     
  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I didn't read past I ignored as if you know how they proved that claim. Why don't you research it and tell me their.

    I don't wanna hear about what happened around the country, I wanna hear what happened at cy fair.

    TIA. All you mofos, not you Juan who criticize my not reading everything, at least I'm honest about it
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

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    Oh gosh... Are you serious, or are you just pretending to have this much misunderstanding?

    How would you increase amount of minority teachers? Encourage and foster more minorities to take up teaching as a career. Interview qualified minority candidates for teaching jobs. Offer incentives to attract more minority teaching candidates.

    None of that means firing white teachers. It doesn't mean refusing to hire white teachers.
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    That isn't what the audit said or implied. That isn't something people are arguing. If you want to discuss something, there has to be a minimum floor of understanding needed.
     
  5. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Ah yes it did that's one of the audit performer's main deal in lifedeal aside from the audit

    That's the main part of what's wrong with the audit. The black superintendent got exactly what she expected
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    Well, then the discussion is over. Good luck.
     
  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    The district has made a tangible commitment to improve this.

    They ain't waiting on kindergartners to become teachers
     
  8. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    The guy preaches faculty diversity. He wasn't gonna say that's what is needed?

    Do you think think he ever not say that's what an institution needs?
     
  9. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    @FranchiseBlade

    Do you think a preacher will ever not say you need God first?

    If doesn't say you need more black teachers what happens to his academic credibility?
     
  10. T_Man

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    LOL!!!!!

    OMG you're hilarious...

    So basically you're saying that NFISD was a crap district... Nah let's put like you're saying it.. So the District was Shitty... The teachers were Shitty and anyone who went to school there are dumb and stupid... Please clarify!!!

    So since you went too this Elaborate Private School, but still can't comprehend... Let me explain it too you a little S L O W E R this time.. so try and keep up

    Teachers have nothing to do with Administrators and their actions...
    The teachers back in the 70's, 80's and early 90's and NFISD cared about the students and did a helluva job..

    They taught more than what was just in the books, especially for Black History.. More than just Martin, Malcom and Mr. Carver...

    They prepared us for college... Hence me stating earlier, but I guess you can't read more than 2 lines...

    So i'm happy you went to your O Might Private school congrats.. But don't come on the board trying to talk crap about something that you know nothing about... Educate yourself by listening to others who have been there and learn the actual truth...

    AND STOP PUTTING DOWN YOUR OWN RACE!!! There are good and bad people in ALL RACES...

    T_Man
     
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  11. FranchiseBlade

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    Whose academic credibility? Do you know how academic credibility is achieved?
     
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  12. JuanValdez

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    That's my point. I'm not going to do that. I'm not an expert. And doing a little bit of reading isn't going to make me an expert. I'm not going to be able to know things by reviewing people's research because I won't be able to tell good research from bad research. In some things in life (maybe many things), I "know" things not by knowing them but by trying to trust the 'right' authorities who do know. I don't particularly trust this Dr. Cleveland. But I definitely don't trust Scott Henry.

    I'd say the job of a trustee is to know which authorities to trust. Mr. Henry could have looked at the landscape of education consulting and said Dr. Cleveland isn't as good a diversity expert as some other guys. Or he could have found that there were a few schools of thought on the best way to improve school performance, and this diversity approach that Dr. Cleveland represents is only one, and maybe some other school of thought is superior. But he didn't do that. Much like you are doing, he tried to go toe-to-toe with Dr. Cleveland in Dr. Cleveland's own field (and one in which he has no expertise in at all) and say his findings don't make sense within their own framework. He grabs something that looks like a fact to make that case, but of course without any expertise himself he looks like a fool trying to argue with an actual expert about his area of expertise.

    I'm not going to do that and pretend to be some arbiter of whether an expert's research is good enough when honestly I wouldn't know. If he has an opinion on how energy markets should be structured, I'll have a critique. But from what I can see from people in Education, there is acceptance that diversity and equity impact student outcomes. I don't see academics or other experts advocating a just-pull-yourself-up-by-your-own-bootstraps approach to student success. It's just regular citizens with an identitarian interest or politicians with self-interest. Which one, really, should I go with?
     
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  13. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Stop.straw manning I'm not knocking public schools I'm knocking north Forest

    Here is the Texas education agency talking about how things improved immediately after hisd took over.in terms of students

    https://tea.texas.gov/about-tea/new...ouston-isd-brings-improvement-to-north-forest
     
  14. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Again, what else is the faculty diversity preacher gonnna say? You don't need more diversity. What would that do to his academic credibility?
     
  15. KingCheetah

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    Everyone ITT enjoying their lecture from the private school Educated Negro?
     
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  16. T_Man

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    There you go again.. Dipping and Dodging...

    What years did I point out...
    70
    80
    Early 90

    What else did I state...
    THE
    ADMINISTRATORS
    WERE
    GREEDY

    SO to educate you more.. In the late 90's they started hiring teachers with out the proper experience too teach High School... again ADMINISTRATORS...

    So stop acting as if the District was **** from the get go....

    I have never seen someone hate their own race so much and someone so stubborn to learn...

    T_Man
     
  17. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Mr Meowgi's close friend has a problem with the uppity negro having been private school educated

    Surprising
     
  18. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    So it was bad

    I don't give a **** why or blamed anyone

    If it was once good, whatever. It wasn't when I was in school

    Let it go
     
  19. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    @FranchiseBlade
    @JuanValdez

    Blade in particular is upset because I said the black superintendent got the result she wanted.

    The hired a guy who preaches students need teachers like them to examine the racial achievement gap

    Why is she hiring a diversity expert to analyze the achievement gap?
     
  20. T_Man

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    LOL

    Stay black my brotha...


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    T_Man
     
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