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Cuttino should be trade bait!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by "da Jet", May 21, 2002.

  1. arno_ed

    arno_ed Member

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    if you trade mobley and draft Williams, thena you are where you are now, a good backcourt and no frontcourt(besides Griffin). if you keep Mobley and draft Ming you have a lot more.
     
  2. TBar

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    Keep Mobely- we have a very good back court for many years- other teams fear our back court.

    Draft Ming.

    Or Trade that abstract draft pick and Kenny Thomas for Elton Brand- a Ben Wallace that scores. A very physical front court player....
     
  3. DCkid

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    I think that's very true. If nothing else Cuttino just won't get the ball in his hands as much. However, I think it will have more of an effect on the way Steve plays. He showed it when he had Maurice and Hakeem in the frontcourt a year ago. Noone could call Steve selfish or a ballhog in the 2000-2001 season. If anything he was too unselfish.

    And let me just add that when you're the worst outside shooting team in the league, its not really a smart thing to trade YOUR BEST FRICKIN' OUTSIDE SHOOTER!!! :mad:
     
  4. DCkid

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    Hahaha! I find it funny the way you worded that. And just so you know...it's not clear at all.
     
  5. DCkid

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    First of all, Cuttino doesn't put up Garnett like numbers. Second of all, if you truly believed he put up Garnett numbers and you still thought he sucked and wanted to trade him, you should probably go back to sleep. I think you're still a little groggy and aren't quite thinking straight.
     
  6. Rocket River

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    The deficiencies inthe front court FAR outweigh our backcourt problems

    With a somewhat healthy front court we won 47 games

    No the reason we in the lottery is injuries more than
    anything

    as for the post count thing. . . it is a running joke

    Rocket River
     
  7. Drewdog

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    No, but I just cant stand newbie posters who come in and bash or create stupid proposals to get rid of current players. In this case it was a player (Mobley) who happened to be our most consistent player from last year.

    You will learn quickly (if you make it that long around here) that proposals and/or criticism better be backed up with a supportive theory behind them to hold any validity whatsoever. In this case, you made a vague attempt at best and gave no reasons as to why we need to trade our best scoring option from last season.

    Like Will said, not a good way to make an impression.
     
  8. Drewdog

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    Amen
     
  9. JayZ750

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    The twin towers can work, the twin buildings...doubtful. Superstar backcourt tandems have much less success than superstar froncourt duos. So, even if you think Jay is better than Francis or Mobley, we would still suck recordwise (but hey, you'd get to root for your favorite player, right?).

    Fortunately, if you have just a good frontcourt with superstar backcourt you can win (take Dallas or any team in the East). Ming will at least make our frontcourt good, and possibly make it fantastic.

    Additionally, Mobley, as of his second half performace last year, may be the best bang for the buck in the NBA right now. In the second half he played under control, he took open three pointers and made them, he was simply an allstar caliber player (if Peja or Sczerbiak were allstars, Mobley's second half was all-star like.
     
  10. R0ckets03

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    I know we can put people on ignore list, but I really wish Clutch would have an option that would enable us to ignore all people who suggests stupid ass trades.


    How much better would Jason Williams be then Cuttino? Not much and chances are good he might not even turn out to be better then Cuttino. Cat is damn good at what he does. Bringing him off the bench is another retarted idea! He was our best player this last year. WTF cares about a spark off the bench? Our starters were sorry enough last year and now some of you idiots want to put him on the bench. :rolleyes:
     
  11. MrSpur

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    Dealing Mobley would be a bad move for Houston. Especially dealing him when you have the top pick, Griffin, Kenny Thomas, and Cato.
     
  12. R0ckets03

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    Even a Spur fan is smarter then some of you dorks. ;)
     
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    Let me get this straight, we have one of the best backcourts in the NBA. A backcourt that gets along on AND off the court. This backcourt led us to 45 wins 2 years ago when we got some frontcourt production. We have the #1 pick in the draft. There's a franchise center sitting there, a 7-5 center with very good offense, a great touch from outside, hits <b>72%</b> from the field, and actually hits his free throws at an amazing clip <b>76%</b>, is a dominant shot-blocker, giving us 3 shot-blockers, is a dominant rebounder, something we need, and you want to burn the draft pick on ANOTHER guard, an unproven guard, a PG no less, giving us a more inexperienced, smaller, unproven backcourt. Meanwhile you trade Mobley for an average big man, and isolate your franchise player. Sounds like a plan to me! If you thought our chemistry sucked last year, stay tuned if the Rockets trade Mobley and draft Jay Williams!
     
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  14. TexasG

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    I haven't read everything you guys wrote other than most of you not wanting to trade Cat. I understand your reasons for not wanting to trade Cat but coupled with the #1 pick you guys could make out like bandits. If the Clipps were willing would you consider a trade like this ...

    Houston Trades
    #1 Pick
    Kenny Thomas
    Cat Mobley

    Clipps Trade
    #8 Pick
    Odom
    Maggette

    Before you diss the trade consider the possabilities. First, you guys will still get a very good player at #8. Second you guys get Odom who can run the Point Forward allowing Francis, and Maggette more freedome to get open and move without the ball. Not to mention that Odom is an upgrade over Thomas, and he's younger. Third as much as you guys like Mobley, he is still kind of small. You won't lose any scoring ability in Maggette, he's bigger than Cat, and he's younger (or at very least the same age).
     
  15. RocksMillenium

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    Why would the Clippers want Mobley? They're having a tough enough time as it is playing Maggette, and that could hamper their chances at re-signing him. Why would they take Mobley?
     
  16. Possum

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    Exactly why I don’t want to see us trade KT.:mad:
     
  17. "da Jet"

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    Cuttino is just another Starbury that will score, and never take your team anywhere! He is a ball hog and should be traded. I may be a new to your board, but I've been around for years! Its just my opinon, No hard feelings! I respect all of your comments! (drewdog, Dckid). I'm trying to bash or make stupid remarks, I just feel that MOBLEY HAS AN EXCELLENT TRADE VALUE, SO WHY NOT TRADE HIM FOR A BETTER PLAYER! YALL COMPARED HIM TO GARNETT, BUT WILL HE PLAY DEFENSE? I THINK NOT(DELL CURRY)CAN PLAY MORE D THAN CUTTINO. BALLHOGS DONT WIN RINGS!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
     
  18. MrSpur

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    Um thanks....I think. :p
     
  19. R0ckets03

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    Well how the hell are we going to argue against that? :rolleyes:
     
  20. Rocket River

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    OK
    Starbury comment - Me-Bury has attitude problems unlike CAT

    JET .. I will go with you if you can do something for me

    1. NAME A SHOOTING GUARD - as good as THE CAT - that is making the same or less money. [THAT IS NOT ON HIS ROOKIE CONTRACT]

    Also . . .If you can do that with someone on their rookie contract - tell if they will take what cuttino has taken to stay here.

    BTW - none of that blah blah blah's numbers don't show it but he got potential crap . . . i want someone who HAS PRODUCED like cat


    2. Show me someone that we can get with Cat's money and KT's Money and the #1 that matches up salarywise to be wise
    Odom and Maggete trade is interesting but Maggete's outside shot is suspect . . as is his temperment or intelligence [see the breaking hand thing] and ODOM will want big money. Cat is locked up for at least 4~5 more years at his price. Both Odom and Maggette think they are near MAX players.
    so we lock up our Cap situation for a long time after they both sign OR one of them will leave.

    3. Also . . how do you convince another person to TAKE ONE FOR THE TEAM after you have signed someone who was loyal to you . . and took less to be with you . .. THEN YOU SCREW THEM OVER AND TRADE THEM!!!

    Rocket River
    I'll sit down and let you address these . . .thank you
     

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